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CONLANG  April 2001, Week 2

CONLANG April 2001, Week 2

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Re: Norreyna

From:

Dan Jones <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 12 Apr 2001 00:22:44 +0100

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Oskar Gudlaugsson wrote:

> Okay, gauging from this data:
>
> > >Ef norreyna wa yenow goed fer Haelend, cwa's yenow goed fer mec!
>
> And some of what you've said, I guess the following things:
>
> * Front rounded vowels are derounded - evident in the lang's name
> itself, "Norreyna", but also in "fer" (< ON "fyr", modern Swedish "för").

Yep. However, "u" can be pronounced /y/ and the digraph "oe" represents
rounded /E/, from ON ó.

> * OE spelling (with yogh converted to "y"); "ţ" included?

Roughly. "Y" represents /@/ when vocalic and /j/ when consonantal. No thorn
or edh, they're both represented as "th", which is /D/ when intervocalic and
/T/ everywhere else.

> * Some Anglicisms, such as "yenow"... though older ON did have "gnóg", it
> generally lost the "g" in all dialects; derived words retain it, though,
> even in Modern Icelandic, e.g. "gnćgđ" (~richness).

Yep, words I think "fit in" more are borrowed from OE, like yenow from
genog. There is no system to this, it's all down to aesthetics.

> * Endings generally dropped.

Simplified, not dropped. Here's an example of the three noun declensions:

singular
          1               2                   3
nom.   lan             nod              fadyr
gen.    lans            nodys           fadyr
obl.     lane            node            fadyr

plural
nom.    lonyr          nodyr           fedyr
gen.    lona            noda            fedra
obl.    lono            nodo            fedro


> * Don't know why you have "wa" and not "was" or "war"; what's "cwa's"? By
> context, I know it means "it was", but how?

"War" from var, "wa" is a typo. Cwa's = cwa is "which is". Hv becomes cw.

> * I suppose it's pretty much ON word stems with mostly English syntax and
> grammar, instead of the original inflections; do you retain Verb-Second?

Largely. V2 is the general rule, except in the preterite one finds V1,
though this is merely a stylistic point, whatever flows better.

> Loving this idea,

Someone's taken an interest! I feel gratified now.

Dan

> Óskar

-----------------------------------------------
Ka yokonáu iti báyan: "cas'alyá abhiyo".

Ka tso iti mantabayan: "yama zaláyá
alánekayam la s'alika, cas'alika; ka yama
yavarryekayan arannáam la vácika, labekayam
vácika, ka ali cas'alyeko vanotira."
-----------------------------------------------
Dan Jones

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