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SCUBA-L  July 2001, Week 1

SCUBA-L July 2001, Week 1

Subject:

Quiet Scuba-L, DIR was Re: Diving the Bahamas, Suggestions anyone was Re:Life

From:

Gozum_NT at OIT <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Scuba diving discussion list <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 2 Jul 2001 11:05:51 -0400

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Thanks for the very very interesting retrospective on Scuba-l and
Scuba-SE!  A little history helps.

I'm not sure if a quiet list is a pejorative, since part of the goal of a
moderator is to keep the noise from the signal.  In the year I've been
here, scuba-l  picks up depending on interest a thread starts, and often
the thread dies as ideas are exhausted or it just petters away on a weekend
as everyone goes diving.

In contrast to techdiver, one has to wade through a mountain of insults
before anything substantial appears.  At that rate, its not worth reading
on a daily basis, so it may as well be quiet!

OTAH, if you're into cat fighting for entertainment, there it is.  However,
it is insightful to hear the DIR divers and instructors speak their minds,
as amidst the promise of DIR is the dark abysses of their thoughts,
personalities and motivations which, are indeed cause for concern in such a
life threatening sport as technical diving.  I know some posters
personally, I'm happy to note they aren't drawn into wastes of energy as
others.

A critical component I find lacking in DIR are the pathologic attacks of a
DIR Director on anything generally not his way, the copycats he spawns, and
the way it impedes the message of DIR throughout the established diving
community: tech, rec, even DAN.  DIR has something to give the world of
diving but the impasse created by this lout gives the rest of the dive
world a bad impression.  Now, if this is a calculated move like the early
Mohammad Ali, that's a different story.

The oft used excuse as 'this has been discussed before' ad nauseam is not
an excuse for an insult for a  response.  Refer them to a FAQ, which is
essentially the GUE website.

Communication is an essential part of diving and teaching.  Our survival
underwater depends on how we communicate planning topside, as we have
limited communication options underwater.

In the history of human existence, every language has an adjective for
"please," as well as a host of insults.  It suggests, without a
sociological analysis, that diplomacy and vile behavior has been part of
human ways for sometime.  The choice of adjective is ours.  Wars have been
started for as little as a  misunderstanding.








At 12:00 AM 6/29/2001 -0400, Automatic digest processor wrote:
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Thu, 28 Jun 2001 08:08:04 -0400
>From:    Reef Fish <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Diving the Bahamas, Suggestions anyone was Re:Life
>
>Marv observed,
>
> >> As for scuba-l, its probably quiet, as if not diving I've met a number of
> >> normally sane and polite scuba-l'ers in the rambunctious, netiquette-free
> >> insult ridden tech diver list.
>
>Why pick on the tech diver list?  Drop in the archives of Scuba-SE
>and watch Chuck.  ;-)
>
>Better still, drop in the archives of Scuba-SE and watch what I cited
>on one of Nick's editorials in Scuba-L!  This is but one snipet:
>Hey Don!  It's great here.
>
>Don> Traffic there is greatly diminished, but scuba is discussed in
>Don> every post
>
>Traffic certainly picked up here.  :-)))
>
>Y'all have a real nice day now, y'hear?
>
>-- Bob.
>
>------------------------------


Warm regards,


Marv

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