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AUXLANG August 2001, Week 5

Subject:

Re: AUXLANG Digest - 28 Aug 2001 to 29 Aug 2001 (#2001-190)

From:

James Chandler <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:49:37 +0000

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Samuel, i think all those idists out there working hard to promote the
language and build up the movement would be devastated by your remarks.  How
dissimilar does a language have to be from all others to deserve
recognition?  One could argue (at the risk of reigniting the feud between
Bob and the Ia-ists) that Ia is a clone of Occ.  So does Ia not deserve
recognition?  Or is it Occ that is undeserving, as Ia now has the bigger
following?

Please reflect on your remarks and i think you will see that they are absurd
and impossible to seriously maintain.

Kordiale, James Chandler
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http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/5037 - IALs index

"Linguistics has been reduced by Chomsky and his disciples to a positively
mind-boggling level of stupidity and insignificance.  If ever the Prime
Minister wants an excuse to close down a university, she has only to look at
its department of linguistics." - Auberon Waugh, Oxymoron to a boiled egg
(1988) [review of The Chomsky Reader, 1987]



>From: Samuel Rivier <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: AUXLANG Digest - 28 Aug 2001 to 29 Aug 2001 (#2001-190)
>Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 18:08:07 -0700
>
>Umm I didn't mention Ido because it is a clone of
>Esperanto, and I think is so similar to the latter
>that it doesn't deserve recognition. I suppose, like
>taiwan to the people's republic, they're all chinese
>to me.
>
>Also I did mention Ceqli and in fact praised you on it
>in the last message and in one I sent a few months
>earlier.
>
>When I say naturalistic I mean it in the etymological
>sense. An IAL must mimic as closely as possible normal
>linguistic patterns. That is another of my beefs with
>the lojban place-value system.
>
>To quote Richard K. Harrison (Author of "Proposed
>Guidelines for the Deveolpment of an Optimal IAL"),
>"Europe has never really been the center of
>civilization, and is even less so now."
>I have a serious problem with Euroclones because I
>think there is a serious misconception about the
>population of European language speakers (not
>necessarily native, mind you).
>
>Mandarin Chinese numbers at about 1 billion, English
>at about 1.3 billion. I think we can agree that a
>Hindi speaker will have about as limited a capability
>of learning a Western European language as any
>non-European, so that adds 800 million. Add Arabic and
>maybe Malay to that and you number about 2.5 to 3
>billion speakers of non IE languages, over HALF THE
>EARTH!
>All West European speakers combined can't come near
>this number. This goes to show how "universal"
>Euroclones really can be.
>
>Well, I've strayed off topic enough for one post. By
>the way, if anyone has some more in-depth materials on
>Glosa, please tell me.
>
>-Samuel Rivier
>
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