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CONLANG  September 2001, Week 3

CONLANG September 2001, Week 3

Subject:

Re: Russian

From:

Vasiliy Chernov <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 18 Sep 2001 14:27:52 -0400

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On Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:22:16 -0700, Frank George Valoczy <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

>I just use the Serbian latinica orthography, with the following
>differences: letters with a hachek on it are followed by 'h' (ch, sh, zh),
>d-bar and c-acute are irrelevant because the soudns these represent are
>not present in Russian, and the addition of 'y' for "bI". A brief example
>(excuse what it is, I can't think of anything else off the top of my
>head) (also spelling might be wrong):
>
>Sojuz njerushimij respublik svobodnih
>splotila navjekij vjelikaja Rus
>da zdravstvujet sozdannih voljej narody
>jedinij, moguchij Sovjetskij Sojuz.

Shouldn't it be:

Sojuz njerushimYj respublik svobodnYh
splotila navjekI vjelikaja Rus
da zdravstvujet sozdannYJ voljej narodA
jedinYj, moguchij Sovjetskij Sojuz.

- if I understand your explanations above correctly?

>Eto nje horoshaja idjeja.

So, your system doesn't differentiate {sh} from {s}+{h}? Or did you
actually mean _horoöaja_?

I've invented a dozen translitterations trying to make them reversible,
leaving space for adding accents, and aesthetically pleasing, but wasn't
really satisfied with any.

An example of a not so bad one (reversible, allowing accents, all within
ISO-8859-1):

Cxto zh. Zamri i smotri v niŽbiŽsa
do pory, kogda oblacxnym prišzham
nuzhno vdrug priŽvrasxatjsiš v liŽsa,
stanovitjsiš ovragami, skazhem,
nabiŽgaiš kustom na glaza,
obrasxaišsj k soznanjiŁ piŽÔzazhiŽm.

V blizorukom viŽlicxjiŽ svoiŽm,
s koim vzglišd tvoÔ k prostranstvu prikovan,
skryto cxuvstvo, cxto strannyÔ obˇiŽm,
kak zalog tiŽbiŽ dolgiÔ, darovan,
cxto ot vsiškoÔ progulki vdvoiŽm
i ot smiŽrti vdvoiŽm - zastrakhovan.

Same with accents:

Cxtů zh. ZamrŪ i smotrŪ v niŽbiŽsŠ
do porż, kogda ůblacxnym prŪšzham
nķzhno vdrķg priŽvrasxŠtjsiš v liŽsŠ,
stanovŪtjsiš ovrŠgami, skŠzhem,
nabiŽgŠiš kustům na glazŠ,
obrasxŠišsj k soznŠnjiŁ piŽÔzŠzhiŽm.

V blizorķkom viŽlŪcxjiŽ svoŪŲm,
s kůim vzglŪšd tvoÔ k prostrŠnstvu prikůvan,
skrżto cxķvstvo, cxto strŠnnyÔ obˇŪŲm,
kak zalůg tiŽbiŽ důlgiÔ, darůvan,
cxto ot vsŪškoÔ progķlki vdvoŪŲm
i ot smŪŽrti vdvoŪŲm - zastrakhůvan.


Basilius

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