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AUXLANG December 2001, Week 1

Subject:

Re: [esp-novo] Ciulo hiebe ne legan anglengo?

From:

Roy McCoy <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 1 Dec 2001 14:11:11 +0200

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Lu hiera promeso [en esp-novo], yen traduco en N.E. (tio estan, traduco
en *ia* N.E., ne en *la* N.E., cia ne yam existan) de mia mesago en la
forumo che http://www.europa.eu.int/futurum/forum/.

*******

"Ciale ne plibonigita Esperanto?" Mi mem forte favoran hia aparta optio,
e generale sentante mi sola tirilate estin surprizita aliulo proponanta
lo hiebe. Mi volan proponi celcas comentos pri "ciale ne", sed tracton
celcas interas demandos ante ol fari tio.

Unue, "Ciale planlengo?" Oni vere devun comensi hiebe e ne tuy salti
al "Ciale Esperanto?", nam [chu?] Esperanto estan nur spesifa realigo
de la plenlenga ideo e ne devun esti considerata exclusiva optio.
Haban nenio, facte, cio povan esti dirata favore al Esperanto cio
ne povan esti dirata favora al la generala consepto, e estan pli bone
tracti unue la concepto ol esti tuy devigita al ayniesa partizaneso
pri la temo. Europo devun uzi plenlengo nam lo bezonan comuna lengo,
e planlengo ofertan avantagos nehaveblas per natilengos, presipe
neutraleso e relativa lernfasilo. La nura alia voyo al neutraleso -
electo del [ciele la iande proponita "den" sed con "l"-acuzativo,
e bona rimedo por eviti "del" = T.E. "de l'"!] neeuropa lengo -
forjetun la dua el hias avantagos, e niulo estan consideranta hia
optio chiacaze.

Due, "Ciale Esperanto?" Unufoye ce oni estan agnoscinta la unicas
avantagos de plenlengo e comensinta priesplori la eblos, estan tre
nolfasile eviti Esperanto ciele chefa candidato. Loas virtos estan
entuziasme predicatas de aliulos, e mi ne devan ripeti tio ciol les
diran. La signifa afero estan ce les estan relative multas contraste
al tiulos subtenantas alias plenlengos, e tio sugestan (ne noljuste)
ce haban esos [ne "estos"] de la lengo cias pravigan hia entuziasmo.

Trie, "Ciale plibonigita Esperanto?" Hio estan nam la esperantistos,
por tenadi comuna normo e eviti ce lesa lengo splitisu alen diversas
resiproce necompreneblas variantos, estan retenintas celcas dubindas
traytos de la originala formo eldonita en 1887. Elstara inter hias estan
iome bizara aro de sis diacritas literos, c/g/h/j/s con sircumflex e
u con lunarco. La existo de hias literos povan esti pravigata, e multas
esperantistos defendon los tre vigle; sed restas serte vere ce ayniulo
creanta plenlengo por Europo de nulo ne electun uzi tiesas literos, e
tiale semblan iele sensense reteni los nur pro eraro farita ante 114
yaros. Haban celcas alias aferos cias regule revenan ciande Esperanto-
reformo discutatan (genre neutralas pronomos, plene sistemigitas nomos
por landos e popolos, etp), sed estan surprize ciome nolmultas hias
estan. Eblan, do, consideri la eblo ye plibonigita Esperanto, pro tio
ce haban relative nolmulto en lo cio vere bezonan esti cambita.

E fine, "Ciale *ne" plibonigita Esperanto?" La problemo estan, ce
haban vaste nolsamas gustos e preferos rilate al multas se ne chias
aspectos de plenlengo. Ech se oni comensan con Esperanto tiesa ciesa
lo estan e sul limigan al cambi la relative nolmultas aferos aluditas
supre, ocazan aparta splito che chia puncto de la voyo, rezultigante
vasta nombro de eblas alternativas formos, e poca o nioma comuna consento
pri aynia el los. Mi starigin Esperanto-reformgrupo nomita Novo ante
dec yaros (vidu http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/esp-novo, o scribu
al <[log in to unmask]> por aboni loa listo) e estan
constante spertinta tio pose. Do tio ciol mi volan diri estan, ce ne
estan fasile! Ya, mi havan plibonigita Esperanto cial mi ellaborin e
pri cia mi estan iome contenta, e lo estan influinta la reformversios
de aliulos samciele lesas [facte lisas] estan influintas la mia, sed
nos restan ancore dividatas e semble ye longa distanto for de comuna
reformpropono. Do mi volan nur liveri hia averto, ne por nolcuragigi
pluas provos hiesas, sed - nole - por curagigi los ciele nesesas, e
probable tre tempopostulas se oni volan fine havi io cio eston generale
acseptebla al chiulos - e ciol espereble tre multas europanos efective
shaton. La esperantistos estan yam montrintas la viveblo e practiceso
de la ideo. La tempo comensi la revizio estan nun, e con alta grado de
seriozeso.

*******

Mi esperan ce Alexandro e la alias [mi ne metan "aliulos" tiebe pro
la tuya apudeso de hom-nomo, sed ancore ne havan sistema ideo pri ciande
uzi "-a" e ciande "-ulo"] estan nun contentas. Chu eble ance Granda Cato
nun provu traduci la sua?

Tile,

Roy

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