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CONLANG  April 2002, Week 2

CONLANG April 2002, Week 2

Subject:

Re: Weekly vocab #3

From:

Roger Mills <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 13 Apr 2002 14:05:16 -0400

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(2nd try; it was all ready to go last night when we crashed......)

>Brought to you by D (for doctor) and possessive pronouns.
>
>Vocab:
>
>   1. doctor / healer-- kandumbra (either MD or (uncommon now) traditional
"healer"; colloq. kandum, informal direct addr. kand˙; < #9)
>   2. medicine-- andumbra (also means 'treatment'; < #9; I think a separate
word would be desirable for 'medicine as a substance'.....)
>   3. ear-- šikun, ekacikun (ekam 'leaf'... the external, visible ear)
>   4. eye-- išun
>   5. friend-- kambra
>   6. itch and/or scratch-- picivet 'itch'; ˝anak 'scratch (an itch)'
>   7. hurt / pain (the verb ... or not)-- ahar (vb.), a˝ahar (n.)
>   8. diagnosis-- not yet; for now, andaca˝ ~taca˝i 'definition' (base
/tacaN/ plus /ni/)-- correct medical usage would be .....acangi 'definition
(of) sickness/disease'
>   9. cure / heal-- tumbra
>   10. ill-- šangi
>
>  Context:
>
>   1. She is my doctor.
iye (yale) kandumbrami ~ kandumbi  (iye 'that-one(fem.)'; with subj. pronoun
yale 'is' is OK but unnecessary; ~ yale k.  if fem.subj. is known from
context)

>   2. _That_ is _my_ medicine, and _this_ is yours.
_iyu_ andumbra mami, _tayu_ yu hati (_..._ emphatic intonation; yu hati
'the-one of-you';  mami (gen. of mam '1sg.') full form for emphasis,
otherwise andumbrami is OK)

>   3. She looked in their ears.
(iye) yatingas ri šikunušeni  (ears(dat)-- '..looked into their ears)--cf.
yaminja nešikun ri šikunušni 'she looked/searched for earwax in their
ears(acc.- locative)

>   4. She looked in (or tested, or..) her (someone else's) eye.
(iye) yatingas ri išunušeni.  Perhaps yatitingas išunušni 'she inspected
their eyes(acc, unmarked)

Kash -ni can be very ambiguous-- 'his, her, its, their' sometimes 'the' (et
al. too)-- and generally needs context or situation.  Even so, without
context 'her (own) eyes/ears' would be the least likely interpretation here
due to difficulty/oddness of such an action, without a helping phrase like
"...with a mirror" etc.

>Our friends are ill.
kambralamim išangi (reverse order OK too)

>   6. His scratch (the one on him) is worse than his scratch (the one he
>caused on someone else unspecified).SUBSITUTE EVINE 'WOUND'
evineni yacamuko alo evineyi iyani (iyani 'that-one of-him' (s.o.else) for
absolute clarity, though actually unnecessary, since "his wound...his(own)
wound" is senseless here, so ...alo evineyini would be OK.  _alo_ 'from;
than' takes the genitive case)

>   7. Do y'all's heads hurt? / Do you guys have headaches?
Doctor (formal): aka hikena a˝ahar falaka (lit "Q you/pl-suffer pain head?")

Informal: yaleka šapalakki?  'there-is-Q headache-of you/pl?'  (-hi > -ki,
sandhi)
(šapalak colloq., irreg. < šangi falaka 'sick (of) head)  OK in normal
situations.

More informal: kašohi, yaleka šapalak? guy/fellow-2pl/poss, there-is-Q
headache? 'Hey guys, got a headache?'  OK in normal situations.

(kašˇ is singular form, vocative here; OK to friends, overly familiar if
used to strangers; but not as bad as _kayˇ_ 'hey, you ~ hey, mac', always
impolite unless perhaps alerting a stranger to potential danger.)

Colloq. and possible but odd!!:  hileka šapalak? 'you/pl/dat-Q headache?'
(you might be addressing a group (M or F in Kash culture!), all of whom have
begged off having sex with you.  Cf. ta condre, lembi, me šapalak 'not
tonight, dear, I have a headache'

>   8. His diagnosis (that he gave) is that she will get better.
lusongi andaca˝i, (iye) yayutumbra(to) 'according-to his/the-definition, she
will become healed' (more definite with future -to)  OR ...(iye)
yayukavan(do) '...will become healthy' --  _tumbra_  implies some active
treatment; _kavan_ would not.   (BTW, shouldn't this be _prognosis_????)

>   9. His diagnosis (for the disease he has) has a cure.
lusongi andaca˝i, yale tumbrani acangini '...there is a cure of/for his
sickness'-- a variety of interpretations (in both sentences I think),
depending on context.. Whose diagnosis? whose disease?


>   9a. She will cure my friends.
(iye) yarundumbra(to) kambralambim (kambra/la/n/mim friend/pl/acc/our)

>   10. I am not ill anymore.

ta mašangi lavi (not I-sick more)  This one, at least, was easy!
Very colloq., sorta baby-talky:  e, yamÚt šangi(mi)! 'hey, all-gone
(my-)sick!'
Easy-- this one, at least!!!
>
Kash does not have an alienable/inalienable distinction, but does
distinguish possession by humans (nilus-mi 'my hand', puna erek-i
'Erek's[gen.] house') from "possession" by inanimates (raka-ni puna 'big-its
house, the size of the house', lus-ni acivar 'end-its lecture, the end of
the lecture').  There are a few cases when an inanimate noun can be in the
genitive-- e.g. for obvious component/integral parts e.g. ace lacayi 'leg of
the table'-- but it's optional (aceni laca is OK, but *punani erek 'Erek's
house' is dead wrong).

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