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CONLANG  April 2002, Week 3

CONLANG April 2002, Week 3

Subject:

Re: A BrSc a? & Nyuu Romaji

From:

J Y S Czhang <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 19 Apr 2002 16:42:19 EDT

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In a message dated 4/19/02 12.01.23 PM, [log in to unmask] writes:

>Although /@/ occurs much more frequently than /1/, it is still absent from
>very many languages, including some widely spoken ones such as Spanish.
> Is this scheme acceptable in an IAL?

    Schwa buffering is a great phonotactic ;) IMHO. /@/ can be allowed to
quite flexible. Schwa can be said to be any central vowel sound - ranging
from /@/ and /8/ to /3/ or even (my fav's) /3:`/ or /3:(r)/.
    Other vowels maybe permitted to "pass for" /@/:
    - the short /a/ of North Indian languages (a la the 1st vowel in
_Punjabi_ /pan.dZa:bi:/)
    - the infamous /a:/ in African-American "Ebonics" (a la _killa_ or
_killah_ /kIl.la:/ for "killer" /kIl.L@r/)

    When it comes to difficult consonant clusters, ferinstanz, schwa
buffering seems to be useful for 2nd language learners... even native and
semi-native speakers can be heard using schwa-ing when it comes to difficult
sounds - not just consonant clusters.

    IMO, any contemporary IAL that doesn't take schwa (and variations
thereof) seriously is being _way_ too prescriptive and ignoring documented L2
learning patterns and strategies.

In a message dated 4/18/02 11.57.22 PM, [log in to unmask] writes:

>En réponse à [log in to unmask]:

>Funny, some words in New Romaji look like representations of Ebonics I've
>seen :)) (like the use of A to mark vocalic R in non-rhotic dialects :))
>. I suppose brother and sister become BRODHA and SISTA :)) ).
>
>You should share it with the list. It probably would interest some reformists
>there :)) .

A Description of the "New Romaji" (NR) Spelling System for English

NEW ROMAJI (50 Simple and Combined Sounds, Represented by 25 Roman Alphabet
Letters)
25 Vowel Sounds     25 Consonant Sounds
A
E
I
O
U
AA
AE
II
OO
UU
AI
AU
EI
OU
OI
AIR
AUR
EIR
OUR
OIR
AR
ER
IR
OR
UR
P
B
F
V
M
T
D
TH
DH
N
S
Z
SH
ZH
R
K
G
C
J
Q  <---- /N/  which is odd  What's wrong with 'ng'?????
H
W
L
Y   /j/
YU <----- /ju:/

NEW ROMAJI (EXAMPLE WORDS: Simple Vowels / Diphthongs / R-Combinations)
Simple

SAN sun
SEND send
SIN sin
SONIT sonnet
SUT soot
SHAANT  shan't
SAEND sand
SIIN seen
SOON sawn
SUUN soon
SAIN sign
SAUNA sauna
SEIN  seine  <---- LOL
SOUN sown
SOI  soy
SAIR    sire
SAUR  sour
SEIR  sayer
SOUR   sower
SOIR  sawyer
STAR    star
STER stair
SIR  seer
SOR  sore
SYUR  sewer

    The Short "o" of British Received Pronunciation is represented by O;
however, in certain North American dialects, this is pronounced as a Broad
"ah", and so TO "sonnet" (shown above) may optionally be represent by SAANIT.
Such words as TO "often", which are also pronounced with a Short "o" in
Received Pronunciation, are pronounced in some North American dialects with
an "awe" sound, so that TO "often" may regularly be represented by OFIN, but
optionally represented by OOFIN, as well.

    The Broad "ah" of British Received Pronunciation, as well as of various
other dialects, is represented by AA, and so TO "shan't" is regularly
represented by SHAANT (above). However, in certain North American dialects it
is pronounced with an "ae" sound, and may optionally be represented by
SHAENT. Other words, such as TO "alms", do NOT have exceptional North
American pronunciations, so TO "alms" may generally be represented by AAMZ.
Vocalic "r" is indicated by R, so TO "ruler" and "earth" are represented by
RUULR and RTH. In "r"-less dialects of English, A and AA may be used in place
of (unstressed and stressed, respectively) vocalic "r", so TO "ruler" and
"earth" may optionally be represented by RUULA and AATH.

    Likewise, A may be used in place of vocalic "r" in combination with one
or more vowels, so that TO "star" and "sire" may optionally be represented by
STAA and SAIA. The only exceptions involve simple r-combination words such as
TO "order", which may regularly be represented by ORDR. However, in "r"-less
dialects, TO "order" should optionally be represented by OODA (instead of
OADA). Thus, in cases involving -OR-, R is replaced by O, rather than by A.

Hanuman Zhang  {HANoomaan JAHng} /'hanuma~n  dZahN/
~§~

Sometimes the difference between noise and music is all in your head

"I like the fact that listen is an anagram of silent." ~ Alfred Brendel

_NADA BRAHMA_= < from Sanskrit > "sound is god[head]"/"god[head] is sound"
    anavriti shabdat => "Liberation by sound."
 OM ... Om Tat Sat... Tat Tvam Asi... OM

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