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CONLANG August 2002, Week 2

Subject:

Re: Yûomaewec: English Spelling

From:

Christophe Grandsire <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:32:06 +0200

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En rponse  Adrian Morgan <[log in to unmask]>:

>
> It's been through several editions now, and recently I have simplified
> the stress marking. The reason for complexifying the stress marking in
> the first place was aesthetic - the new simplified version generates a
> few duds like _eovolvvd_ for "evolved" (yuck!).
>

What? It's lovely! :))

>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> This fictional spelling reform was created as a private intellectual
> challenge. In other words, for fun. The author does not believe that
> such a scheme is suitable for the real world, even though the name
> _Yomaewec_ derives from the phrase "You-May-Wish". The result is
> semi-phonetic, but among the aesthetic preferences that governed its
> design was a belief that a few exceptions and ambiguities add
> character to a language. The best way to think about it is as the
> system that might have been if Australian English had evolved on an
> isolated island and was given an orthography by scribes, much as
> happened for Gaelic in our world.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Hzes fektcinil splleyn rifoom woz kreattid az i pruevit entilkktcil
> tcalindj. En uhzi wodz fo fun. Hze oohsi duz not bileov hzat sutc i
> skeom ez sotibil fo hzi reol wold, eovin hziu zi naem _Yomaewec_
> diruevz from hzi fraez "Y-Mae-Wec". Hzi rizolt ez sme-fonmmek, but
> imuyn hze ashsttek prfrintsez hzat guvind ets dizuen woz i bileof
> hzat i fy ksptcinz and ambigyittez ad karikti t i langwedj. Hzi
> bst wae t hseynk ibawt et ez as hzi sestim hzat muet hav beon ef
> Istraelein Englec had eovolvvd on in uesilaetid uelind and woz gevin
> in oohsoggrife bue skruebz, mutc as hapind for Gaelek en awi wold.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>

Wow! An English spelling that is pretending to achieve even more Maggelity than
the normal English spelling ;))))) . And it even has real features of Maggel!!!

> EXPLANATION OF SYSTEM
> ---------------------
>
> - Digraphs ending with 'o' represent long vowels
>

When I said that it does have real features of Maggel ;))) . In Maggel an o
after a vowel often marks it long.

>
> - Table of vowels:
>   /{/   {a}   (as in "bat")
>   /{:/  {ao}  (as in "bad")
>   /e/   {}   (as in "bet")
>   /I/   {e}   (as in "bit")
>   /i/   {eo}  (as in "beat")
>   /6/   {u}   (as in "but")
>   /6:/  {uo}  (as in "bard")
>   /8/   {o}  (as in "bird")
>   /}/   {o}  (as in "boot", allophone [u:] as in "fool")
>   /O/   {o}   (as in "bot")
>   /o:/  {oo}  (as in "bored", also for "gone" and "all")
>   /U/   {}   (as in "book")
>   /@/   {i}   (as in "rabbit")

Funny, an English spelling that doesn't write /@/ as |a| :))) . I must say I
prefer this one :)) .

>
> - Surprising consonants:
>   /S/   {c}
>   /Z/   {j}
>   /tS/  {tc}
>   /dZ/  {dj}
>   /T/   {hs}
>   /D/   {hz}
>   /N/   {yn}
>

I especially love the last three ones!!! |hs| for /T/ and |hz| for /D/ should
be adopted in the official orthography!!! They are much more original than
|th| :))) . I think |hs| as [T] or [D] is gonna appear in Maggel (but as an
exception only, because the regular rule is that |hs| in Maggel marks [4] :)) .
And there's no *|z| in Maggel...).

About |yn| for /N/, does it mean that "singing" is then spelt |seyneyn|? Neat!

>
> - Table of stress rules:
> # If stressed nucleus followed by one or more consonants:
>   Double the first consonant. If a digraph, double the {h} or {y}.

If what is a digraph? And where would the first |h| or |y| come from if you
have to double them?

> # If at the very end of a word:
>   Append a {h} to the word. If a long vowel, the {o} may optionally be
>   reinserted.
> # If the first half of a vowel cluster where the second half is /i/ or
> /l=/
>   Mark stress as though the whole cluster were the nucleus.
>   example: _ambigyittez_ ("ambiguities")
> # If as above but the second half is not /i/ or /l=/
>   Insert the normally implicit consonant followed by a 'h'.
>   example: _smeokaeyhos_ ("semichaos")
>

"Implicit consonant"?

> - Note that some English words are stressed diffrerently depending on
>   the context. Compare "the unseen horror" with "the horror was
>   unseen". One could spell "unseen" _unseon_ / _unseonn_ respectively
>   but I prefer _unnseonn_.
>

So you actually mark both syllables as stressed? Strange but neat :)) . Do you
do the same with noun/verb pairs like present/present?

> - Optional features might evolve into distinct spellings for words
>   that are pronounced the same; the system is deliberately designed in
>   such a way as to allow conventions and interpretations to evolve.
>   For example since stress marking is meaningless for monosyllabic
>   words it is sensible to spell "to", "too" and "two" _t_, _th_ and
>   _toh_ respectively.
>

Hehe, a spelling reform that can easily evolve into an even more Maggelish
system than English orthography already is ;))) . Neat-o.

Christophe.

http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr

Take your life as a movie: do not let anybody else play the leading role.

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