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AUXLANG November 2002, Week 1

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Re: [construidioma] Hello, Bjørn/ Hola, Bjørn.

From:

fasilinguo <[log in to unmask]>

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International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:31:56 +0100

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    Salutos, pu Biorno.
    Prinsipamente, mio pensan como tuo, sur una linguo nasiona sinplificata.
Cuesto esun la baso vera para comensar.
    La ideo mater la tino esin, desde la comenso, operar ansi. La bagraundo
entre las linguos latinoidas ei la englico esin bastante. Solamente las
cosos difisilas (prononsasiono englica, ortografio fransica, verbos
castilicas nonregulas, esetera) esin eliminatas ei fasilatas.
    Ma, como ecsenplo, la estructuro esensa de la fraso jamai causin
problemos seriosas, ansi dentro la tino la ordo "articulo, ajetivo,
substantivo, ajetivo, adverbo, verbo, adverbo, objeto directa, altras
conplementos verbas", esan retenata como una regulo jenerala, con
preposisionos opsionas para la acusativo ei la vocativo, ba clarificar ou ba
permesar la hiperbatono (canbio de ordo).
    Donce, tuo devun respondar ta mio via una linguo talamente sinplificata,
inves via la englico. Esce tuo conosan la eslovico, cio esan basata mater
las linguos eslavoidas?
    La solusiono plus evidenta, para tuo, esan respondar ta mio via la
europijino/linguo franca nova.
    Fa isa Alecsandro.

    Hi, Bjørn.
    In principle, I think as you, related to a simplified national language.
This would be the very basis to start.
    The idea of Tino was, from the beginning, doing so. The common
background between Romance languages and English was enough. Only difficult
things (English pronunciation, French orthography, Spanish irregular verbs
and so on) was removed and eased.
    But, for example, the essential structure of the phrase never caused
serious problems, thus in Tino the order "article, adjective, substantive,
adjective, adverb, verb, adverb, direct object, other verbal complements" is
retained as a general rule, with optative prepositions for accusative and
vocative to clarify or to allow the hyperbaton (order change).
    Therefore, you should answer me by such a simplified language, instead
using English. Do you know Slovio, based on Slavic languages?
    The most obvious solution, for you, is answering me by Europidgin/Lingua
Franca Nova.
    By Alexandre.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bjorn Madsen" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 12:34 AM
Subject: Re: [construidioma] Hello,_Bjørn/_Hola,_Bjørn.


Hi Alexandre.

Veo que usted está detrás después de ser absolutamente
por una cierta hora.

Gracias por su oferta sobre el informe sobre Acadon de
Leo Moser.  He visto ya lo que usted escribió en la
lista del construidioma, así que pienso que conseguí
la información.

Mis pensamientos sobre auxlangs se están moviendo en
una diversa dirección ahora.  Comienzo a pensar que es
un error para construir "internacional" o "inter -"
las idiomas.  Hay muchos de las buenas idiomas pero
absolutly nadie que las hablan.

Quizás estaría mucho mejor con una construcción basada
en apenas una lengua nacional como español o inglés.
La pieza de la construcción debe hacer un vocabulario
limitado, una gramática simple, deletreo fonético
etcétera.  Con una lengua "tan simplificada" una gente
podría comunicarse con los nativos de la lengua baja y
quizás incluso leyó los periódicos y los libros en esa
lengua.  Algo un poco tiene gusto del "inglés básico"
de Ogdens.

Bjorn




Hi Alexandre.

I see you are back after being quite for some time.

Thanks for your offer about the report on Acadon by
Leo Moser. I have already seen what you wrote in the
construidioma list, so I think I got the information.

My thoughts about auxlangs are moving in a different
direction right now. I begin to think that it is a
mistake to construct "international" or "inter-"
languages. There is a lot of good languages but
absolutly nobody who speak them.

Perhaps it would be much better with a construction
based on just one national language like Spanish or
English. The construction part should make a limited
vocabulary, a simple grammar, phonetic spelling and so
on. With such a "simplified" language people would be
able to communicate with the native speakers of the
base language and perhaps even read newspapers and
books on that language. Something a little like Ogdens
Basic English.

Bjorn

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