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CONLANG November 2002, Week 1

Subject:

Questions on Inalienable Possession Prefixes

From:

Sylvia Sotomayor <[log in to unmask]>

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Date:

Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:39:49 -0800

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I'm having some trouble with inalienable possession...

That Klen has a profound animate vs. inanimate distinction is so
ingrained into the language I can't change it any more. Generally,
this is the distinction between the ma- prefix and the ja- prefix, as
in: jal 'bright thing' and mal 'sun', etc...

Now take the root -k: which is usually  ja-k 'hand'. With an
animate prefix, this would be ma-k, 'worker, manual laborer'. Or,
-N, 'face', which when animate becomes ma-N 'person, aquaintance'
(as opposed to the more generic m-la 'person').

I've already decided to do alienable possession or association as a
suffix, and I would like inalienable possession to be a prefix of
some sort. I've tried it as a suffix and it hasn't worked for me.

So, reading up on the subject, I've come up with two schemes, neither
of which is entirely satisfactory...

Scheme A: Use the current reduced personal pronouns as prefixes
replacing ja-:
So instead of ja-k 'hand', we could have le-k, ri-k, and a small
problem. It should be ma-k for 3p. However, that would conflict with
the animate prefix. So, it could instead be ja-k or from a more
obscure 3p pronoun sa-k.

Scheme B: Use 1st & 2nd person prefixes cognate with the
demonstratives T (here by me) and x (there by you):
Ta-k, xa-k, and ???, probably ja-k, which would fit in with the
fact that the generic demonstrative is jo, and is obviously related
to the inanimate prefix ja- and the 3rd person inanimate pronoun ja.
There is a third deictic demonstrative ke (there by him/her/them),
which could become a'-, as in ak-k, but that doesn't seem right to
me, though the reduplicated consonant bit shows up in other places in
Klen.

I'm leaning towards Scheme B, though A with ja-k is also workable.

Any thoughts, questions or comments from the list?

--
Sylvia Sotomayor
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The Klen language can be found at:
http://home.netcom.com/~sylvia1/Kelen/kelen.html

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