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CONLANG  November 2002, Week 4

CONLANG November 2002, Week 4

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Re: General

From:

"Isaac A. Penzev" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 25 Nov 2002 11:48:20 +0200

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Primafeyra, 24 Noyembre 2002 20:22:18 EST David Peterson eskribiw:

<<<Ha!   My goodness!   Yeah, my mistake.   I didn't mean i kratkaya; I
meant
the vowel that's usually represented in IPA as [i-].   What a goofball I
am...   It's the one that looks like this: bI.   THAT'S the one I meant!
Mistakes, mistakes, mistakes...>>>

X-SAMPA's [1] (which I hate and vote for [i\]) -- IPA "i-barred" is just a
pure sound in any Russian dialect I heard. Ukrainians tend to pronounce it
closer to [@\] or even [e_-], but that's because the Ukrainian language lack
this sound completely.

> -David

On the same topic Amanda wrote:

<<<My teacher called that "yeri" or "yer[self-referrential-thingie]", accent
on the second syllable. I can't recall ever having seen the word written,
though.>>>

It's obsolete, even archaic.

<<<I was not taught to pronounce that as a diphthong.  I think pronouncing
it as a diphthong is how English-speakers deal with being unable to pin
down its actual sound :)  It's actually a simple, self-contained sound,
at least in the dialect of Russian (presumably Muscovite?) that I was
drilled on.>>>

Yeah, it's a real trouble-making sound for foreigners...

> Amanda

Ah, here we meet again in much more pleasant atmosphere...
My regards,
Yitzik
~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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