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CONLANG  November 2002, Week 4

CONLANG November 2002, Week 4

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Re: Nasality pa svenska

From:

Andreas Johansson <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 22 Nov 2002 09:39:29 +0000

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Pavel Iosad wrote:
>Andreas skrev:
> > > > >Heh :-) Now my accent is quite misleading, 'cause my _r_'s
> > > > are uvular,
> > > > >but of course they make my _rt_'s, _rd_'s, _rn_'s and _rs_'s
> > > > >postalveolar...
> > > >
> > > > Postalveolar? Not that there's a world of acoustic difference, but
> > > > prescriptively and following my lect they should be
> > > > retroflex, along with /r/ itself.
> > >
> > >Hmph. Retroflex was indeed what I had gathered when reading the
> > >descriptions a long time, when I never thought of learning
> > Swedish, let
> > >alone at Univeristy. When I came here, however, I tried to make those
> > >_rt_'s and sundry retroflex, but it appeared it's not quite
> > the thing. At
> > >least on those tapes, and in the pronunciation of both our
> > teachers (one of
> > >whom is from Uppsala anyway).
> >
> > This sounds a bit odd to me.
> >
> > What're these people on the tape having for/C/ (as in
> > _tjock_)? Many people
> > (incl me) have [S] for it - do the tape people merge /C/ and /rs/?
>
>Nope. We're keeping the sounds in _stjärna_, _köpa_ and _kurs_
>separate....  or at least try to :-) I think I should say "I" here
>rather than "we", but nevertheless.

I actually asked about the Swedes on the tape, but I assume you're following
them?

FYI, in my 'lect those three are [x], [S] and [s`].


Andreas

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