On Friday 07 February 2003 7:02 pm, Aidan Grey wrote:
> heya Steg!
> Well, here's my tips for Donegal Irish.
> slender - flanked by i and/or e
> broad - flanke4d by a, o, or u
> sl. br.
> p /pj/ /p(w)/
> t /tj, tS/ /t/
> c /kj/ /k(w)/
> ch /C/ /x/
> b /bj/ /b(w)/
> bh /v/ /w/
> d /dj, dZ/ /d/
> dh /j/ /G/
> f /fj/ /f/
> bhf /v/ /w/
> g /gj/ /g(w)/
> gh /j/ /G/
> l /lj/ /l/
> r /ry, C/ /r/
> m /mj/ /m(w)/
> mh /v/ /w/
> n /nj/ /n/
> s /S/ /s/
> th always /h/
> ph always /f/
> sh always /h/
> In other dialects, the lenited consonants (ch, bh, dh, gh) always have
> slender values:
> mo bhaile 'my home' - Don. /m@ walj@/ Kerry /m@ valj@/
I thought that 'my home' was 'mo chonaí' /m@ xoni:/. My pronounciation
probably isn't perfect. I'm not sure how to pronounce (V)í.
> asp. ecl.
> p ph /f/ bp /b/
> t th /h/ dt /d/
> c ch /x,C/ gc /g/
> b bh /v,w/ mb /m/
> d dh /j,G/ nd /n/
> g gh /j,G/ ng /N/
> f fh (silent) bhf /v,w)
> m mh /v,w/
> s sh /h/
> Some of the "teach Yourself Irish" books have good explanations of the
> complicated vowel sequences (like eói, etc.) but basically think of them
> like this:
> short vowel + i : like short vowel, often with w before back vowels (ai
> as in baile often like /wa/. for example)
> long vowel + i : diphthong (táin (the famous story) like /tAjn/)
> note the different pronunciation of a/ (aka á or a fada) sort of like
> au in British Paul
> e/i often ignored before a short vowel (except that it usually
> introduces a /j/ after the consonant - i.e. no effect on vowel pron.)
> Hopefully this helps. There are others here who can help too. Feel free
> to ask for clarification or if there's something you don't get. This info
> comes from my experiences studying Irish from native speakers.
> >So anyway, i'm now taking a course in Irish Gaelic, and i'd really
> >appreciate it if someone could tell me all the rules for broad/slender
> >vowels and consonants, and aspiration and eclipsis, and all the other
> >stuff. My teacher isn't a native speaker, and she admits to mixing
> >dialects a lot, and my dictionary isn't nearly as much help with
> >pronounciation as i thought it would be.
> >So would anyone be able to help me?