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CONLANG  March 2003, Week 4

CONLANG March 2003, Week 4

Subject:

Re: My name (jara: OT: Composing)

From:

Roger Mills <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 23 Mar 2003 13:14:27 -0500

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Yan Suranjakra yawuri:

> --- Roger Mills skrzypszy:
> > In Kash, you would be:  (yan, can or huwan) suranjakra
> > (["suran'dZakra] surań 'mountain', cakra colloq. adj. form of cangar
'rock')
>
> How are these pronounced (the first names, I mean)? [jan], [tjan],
[huvan]?
> And what is the difference between them?

They are just Kash equivalents of various forms of the Terran name; AFAIK
they mean nothing in Kash.
[jan] is correct; /can/ would be [tSan], but /c/ is unaspirated and may be
partially voiced idiolectally.
/huwan/ would be ['xu.an] natively or [xu'an] if the speaker was familiar
with the actual Span. pronunciation. (The "w" is just a holdover from the
writing system and is barely, or not at all, pronounced)

To actually transcribe "John" [dZan] would require a letter "j" not used in
the Holundan alphabet. (Just the other night I realized the the Cindu "IPA"
is a mix of Kash, Gwr, and invented symbols, plus a bunch of diacritics)

The diminutive would add /-ci/: ['jandZi ~ 'tSandZi ~ xu'andZi]

There could also be /ivan/ < Russ.,  /evan/ < Welsh, /San/ > Irish , Germ.
/yohanes/ or /yohan/ (which means 'to disappear'), /covani/, /yo(h,k)anan/
etc.  Port. "Joăo" would really get mangled-- [So'a_UN]? written "Sowawuń",
rather ugly...; likewise Fr. "Jean" [SaN] "Sań"

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