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Subject:

Re: Question about transitivity/intransitivity

From:

Stone Gordonssen <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 18 Jun 2003 08:25:21 -0700

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>Nik's explanation is a lot clearer than mine.

Perhaps, but I'm still mulling over whether this is a real difference or
just a different way of saying the same thing from a different perspective.

>>Verbs like "see" are still ill-defined in Bes Dis'z as I tried to
>>constrict it to use only transitive verbs. For "I see him" I cheat by
>>using "He is seen by me" - "rafíd sil" - as "I see him" - "sifíd san"
>>translates more as "I cause him to be seen". I've never liked this, but is
>>a bit too late to go about shifting verb forms in Bez Dis'z. ::shrug:: We
>>live and learn.
>
>Not sure what's going on in those examples. I'm not familiar with your
>language...are "rafíd" and "sifíd" the verbs? Could you give interlinears?

Sorry. Brainfart on my part.
- rafíd sil
- [rafI_Hd sIl]
- r-a-fíd s-i-l
- (intransative marker)-he-show (aquired)-me-to

- sifíd san
- [sifI_Hd san]
- s-i-fíd s-a-n
- (acquired)-I-show (acquired)-him-the

Prefixes:
s-  = acquired
t-  = habitual, frequent, associative
ts- = intrinsic
r-  = intransitive
y- = generic/nomic

Infixes:
-i-  = 1p
-e- = 2p
-a- = 3p
-o- = diff 3p
-u- = yet another 3p

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