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CONLANG  June 2003, Week 3

CONLANG June 2003, Week 3

Subject:

Re: LWII: The Euroclones Strike Back!

From:

Jan van Steenbergen <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 18 Jun 2003 22:30:50 +0100

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 --- La Padriko Bruno a kive:

> You could easily find "Lost Books of the Bible
> and the Forgotten Books of Eden", which is the
> source for my translations of the Epistle.
>
> Other favourites of mine are: [...]

Quite a fascinating list! I will try to find the stuff as soon as I'll have
some time to spare.

> The above are verifiably ancient texts. The Jesus
> Sutras are totally cool and totally unexpected! -
> if you can only get one of these books soon, get
> that one!!!

Never heard of them. What are they about?

> ===========
> ***********
> ===========
>
> The whole point, which you
> Venedinistes and Volvonians have failed miserably
> to grasp, is that an IAL must make perfect sense
> to _everyone_ in the world. That language can
> only be Neokernopanto Nova.

Neowhat? Never heard of it. Probably Kernantoclone no. 557. How many speakers?
Zero or one? Well, I wish you good luck :P~~~

> This is _not_ an arguable point!

People who fear arguments shouldn't generally be trusted!

> That is total horse hockey! Your own RTC
> compatriot, Dro. Lingvo, has totally debunked the
> "science" and "history" claimed by you
> Venedinistes to support your watered down
> attempts at a true IAL!

Ah, don't speak to me about Dro. Lingvo. In a grey and distant past, we used to
work together on Venedikanto Omniversala Supernova. Until I discovered what his
true motives were: to obstruct the irreversible development of the One and Only
Language. Worse of all, he was a Kemrese infiltrant, and he spent his bribes on
expensive cars and hotels. He also visited prostitutes. Not a compatriot at
all!
And BTW: Dro. Lingvo is not a real doctor at all. In fact, he didn't even
finish primary school!

> > No, what he
> > really said is this: "U szy lucz." He tried in
> > several languages, but only in
> > Venedino it worked, and from that moment on
> > Venedino was The One and Only
> > Language Of The World.
>
> That, of course, is so patently false no counter
> argument is even required.

Almost. You actually mean to say: no counterargument is ever available, right?
Because it is an undeniable truth. Ha, one more victory on the account of
Venedino and its legitimate successor, Venedikanto Omniversala Supernova!

> > That's what educated people call "universal"!
>
> Only if by "educated" you mean "brainwashed by
> the political arm of Venedismo"! What everyone
> else in the world calls it is "plagarism"!!

The Venedikanto movement doesn't have a political arm, because its truths are
universal. And what you call "brainwashed" is nothing more or less than "having
seen the light"!
And "plagiarism"? This accusation is so completely and utterly false, that I
won't lower myself into defending myself against that!

> > We are not responsible for the
> > fact that those lesser IALs stole parts of our
> > text without even understanding
> > the deeper sense of it!
>
> TO the contrary, the creator(s) of Venedino _are_
> responsible for copying from _our_ Fundamento!

_Your_ Fundamento? Never heard of it! Which proves that I can't have copied it.
After all, I simply don't have the time to keep track of all those cheap
imitations of our Fundamento.

> Bah! I don't know why I waste my time with you!!!

Nor do I know why I waste my time with you! People who don't want to listen to
reason could better be neglected!

> _SOME_ people just aren't ready to step into the
> new century - the century that will be speaking
> Neokernopanto Nova!!

Bof! Nothing but cheap propaganda, without a single real argument! Do you
really think people are going to swallow that nonsense?
The only language that qualifies to be the language of the new century is of
course Venedicanto Omniversala Supernova! It is universal, because any speaker
of no matter what language can immediately understand it, without any special
preparation. Which can definitely not be said of your Neokernopanto Nova, which
requires at least ten years of intensive study before a person can produce even
a simple sentence.

> > Did you notice that, people?
> > Interkernopantolingua's true face showing up!
> > Never say that I didn't warn you!
>
> Hah! All intelligent people are working towards a
> newly unified Earth, encompassing all nations and
> peoples - and the One True IAL to Bind Them.

Exactly! And this One True IAL is Venedikanto Omniversala Supernova! Frauds who
claim differently shouldn't be trusted!

> Only medieval dissenters such as the Venedinistes
> and Esperantistes are still belaboured by the
> misconception that theit own puny efforts will
> serve mankind as well!

Nah, don't be tough on Venedino. It had some nice features, and could surely
have served some minor purpose in the Stone Age. But for the rest, it sucks.
Just look: no articles, can you believe that?! And then this horrible
Venedocentrism! Imagine, that word for "Lithuanian" was exactly the same as the
word for "worthless piece of faeces")! No, it's A Good Thing that those
fascists are passť forever now!
Venedikanto Omniversala Supernova is completely different (to illustrate this,
note that our word for "Lithuanian" is homonym to "nice doggy"!)

> Typical tactic used by Venedidiots who have come
> to the end of what little logic and sense their
> "argument" ever had -- personal insults!

If you confuse the objective statement of a fact with an insult, then I'd say
you take a serious look at your language!

> > Pure propaganda!
>
> It's the truth, and you know it! If it's your
> claim that our Manifesto is propaganda, then
> prove it! You know you can not - for any sensible
> person that reads our Manifesto will instantly
> see the Truth of it and will also know the
> falsity of your own inferior ramblings!

Oh, I admit that there are some good parts is your Manifesto. Unfortunately,
exactly the same parts that were copied literally from the Fundamento of
Venedikanto Omniversala Supernova. The rest, needless to say, isn't worth the
paper it is printed on.
And of course your Manifesto is propaganda - what else could it be?

> Yet you're willing to sucker in all sorts of poor
> stooges that would be better served by
> Neokernopanto Nova, the One and Only IAL that
> Everyone Needs!

... that Everyone Needs To Neglect Or Else To Forget About!

> > > Typical propaganda!
> >
> > Ah, you see, people? When they run out of
> > arguments, they always do that!
>
> What? Expose the fallacy of your so called
> argument? Only a total nutball could possibly
> read that and think it were true!

Again, I spot a painful lack of real arguments here. Apparently, those
Neokernopeantos think that the loudest shouter is by definition always right.
Luckily, we (and with us the rest of the world) know better!

> What world are you living on, anyway?

Not a Neokernopantonovaless world, unfortunately... yet! I wonder if we
shouldn't simply nuke that insignificant little island of yours away from its
face.

> Even your own benighted R.T.C. will one day soon
> laugh at its own folly in trying Venedion. Every
> Venedetian will soon happily abandon that
> unusable gibberish you call an IAL and will flock
> to the banner of the Neokernopantistes!

Now this is were you really lose the last remnants of touch with reality. Even
a single Vened learning Neokernopanto? Hahahaha. The mere idea makes me laugh!
Even the very name of the language would be inpronounceable.
But don't worry, here is the solution for you: in Dancyk, I will make an
appointment for you with Dr. Mazurzyk, the eminent psychiatrist who is
specialised in treating linguistically deluded patients. I'm sure he will be
able to find a cure, even for you!

> > For once we agree! Volvolinkvo is not only
> > irrelevant, it is nothing. Zilch!
>
> Just like its Venedino predecessor!

Yes, yes. They are nothing in comparison to Venedianto Omniversala Supernova.

> Well, naturally. Such a bloated, insensible,
> inchoate "giant" as is Venedino will naturally
> collapse of its own distended weight! Who would
> want to be in its way?

Venedino hasn't exactly collapsed, I'd rather say it floated away because of
its lack of weight. Once again, it was a sympathetic language, but just nothing
compared to Venedikanto Omniversala Supernova.

> Typical twisting of the truth that you
> Venedinistes are so fond of!! If it weren't such
> an important humanitarian task to expose your
> lies and deceit, I wouldn't even waste my time
> with your feeble "IAL"!

In other words: you are shamelessly exploiting a true, noble, universal tongue
for your own low and selfish purposes. The only real waste of your time is
trying to revive a corpse. Logically, promoting Neokernopanto Nova is equal to
necrophilia, and should therefore be forbidden by law.

> > On the other hand, I hear that most members of
> > the Interkernopantolingua movement have left.
>
> There were no such members! They never existed!!!
> That is a total lie!!!!!!

Ah, now I understand. So you admit that the whole (Inter)kernopanto(lingua)
movement never had any members! Well, well!

> You are so deluded! Any intelligent person can
> see the Truth!

Indeed, and that intelligent person happens to be me. And the Truth happens to
be Venedikanto Omniversala Supernova. Period.

> > I beg your pardon? You are talking about
> > Venedino SFAED, a useless, inferior,
> > doomed language that has NOTHING in common with
> > Venedino proper!
>
> Six of one, half dozen of the other! Both of them
> are moribund anyway - and a good thing too!

A good thing, indeed, because they free the path for the One and Only etc.

> What _have_ we unleashed!? And it appears to be a
> product of IB.

Well, we discovered at least one fact: the R.T.C.'s main export product - apart
from teddy-bears, chocolate, and small family zeppelins that have the
unpleasant habit of exploding in mid-air - is IALs!

> Well, at least, no one else has
> had the insensibility to set an auxlang against
> the One and Only! (Apart from you, anyway!) ;)))

Indeed, apart from you! Jovianto and Narbonido are much too silent... I
wouldn't trust them.

> Yoiks! Run for your lives!!

Hehe. If we had fought our little flamewar on Auxlang instead of here, we'd
probably be dead by now.

Jan

=====
"Originality is the art of concealing your source." - Franklin P. Jones

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