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AUXLANG June 2003, Week 4

Subject:

Re: One more time... Re: Against dispersion / Compromise Langs - Complangs

From:

Kjell Rehnstrom <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 27 Jun 2003 10:36:47 +0200

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Jacques Dehée wrote:

>*******
> So many Inquisition's questions and so irrelevant ones !
>
But here comes a relevant one! :-)

> According to the President of Esperanto for America 99%
> of the conlanguists are Esperantists.
>
He should rather have asked himself: Why didn't they stay?

But his observation coincides in a way with my own experrience. As for
myself I started with Esperanto which I know well.

Other persons that I know tried to learn it but dropped the idea, as
they found it too difficult. Persons who already know some other, at
least Western, languages are scared away from Esperanto. There are
certainly exceptions which Don H will deliver scores of, I'm sure, but I
just refer to my own impression.

Let's imagine, that I had vast resources and launched Communicando as
the ultimate international language, succeeding in having University
Professors, Presidents to use it, publishers to publish dictionaries in
it etc. then Communicando would be le last cry, and as long as I
succeeded in letting it be prim time news it would continue to get
supporters. Most supporter would be former IAL:ists. and as soon as it
were out of the media focus it would be a matter for auxlang. And there
would be pleas for a commission to discuss a collaboration between all
the existing IAL:s.

Sense morale: If you launch an IAL you have to have followers as soon as
possible. consider the fact that Bloomsbury already publishes
translations of the Harry Potter books in Latin. And they will probably
sell better than any book to date in interlingua. This, guys, is the big
problem!

If you cannot afford publishing dictionaries and arrange courses of
instruction then you have to have a language that is maximally
understandable to a maximum of future users. So you have to consider
what you are going to use the language for.

Well, and when the interest isn't that big anymore, and when the
language is no more in the media or the news, then it is time for the
IAL:ists to discuss its pro's and con's, and we can go on with that
untill aunt Petunia begins growing a beard.

Regards

Kjell R



> When adding Idists and Interlinguists (Interlingua of IALA)
> what percentage remains for the other conlangs you mention ?
> In my opinion let's begin with a meeting for representatives
> of Esperanto, Ido and Interlingua. Such meeting would be
> already a miracle because each one is so convinced of
> being in a superior category !
> This meeting of course would not speak about '2004'
> as you ridicule it !
> Please, dear Jay, calm down and set interesting questions.
> Nothing obliges me to answer the other ones, about fleas
> for example.
>*******
> Best regards, Jacques
>*******
>
>On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 16:37:40 -0400, Jay Bowks <[log in to unmask]>
>wrote:
>
>
>
>>Ok, Jacques,
>>Are you trying to evade my question?
>>Here it is again. When you mention a
>>'compromise' between Interlingua and
>>Ido/Eo have you considered languages
>>like Occidental, Novial, Intal etc.?
>>
>>Or are you then saying that your goal
>>is to convince speakers of Ia/Ido/Eo
>>to take a 'common action' and change
>>to whatever language you happen to
>>support at the present moment?
>>
>>I'm not sure I understand what your
>>intention is in all of this. But I'll ask you
>>again. When you mention a compromise
>>language, have you taken into consideration
>>that there are already several perfectly good
>>candidates already tested and tried such as
>>Occidental, Novial, Intal, Mondial, etc.???
>>
>>Sincerely,
>>Jay B.
>>
>>From: "Jacques Dehée" <[log in to unmask]>
>>
>>
>>> Statu quo means dealock
>>> Members of Esperanto, Ido and Interlingua together may be 99%
>>> of all conlinguists.
>>> A common action of them would activate the media and
>>> would change the negative world opinion
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: "Jacques Dehée" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>A common project of compromise between Interlingua, Ido and
>>>>>Esperanto would change everything and activate the demand.
>>>>>Meanwhile the auxlang dreamers feel an immense frustration
>>>>>and that is what I am feeling myself, particularly
>>>>>when malevolence is added.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>There exists a wide rainbow of choice
>>>>between LsF and Volapuk at the
>>>>extremes of the IAL spectrum.
>>>>When you mention a 'compromise'
>>>>between Interlingua and Ido/Eo
>>>>have you considered languages
>>>>like Occidental, Novial, Intal etc.?
>>>>The solutions are plethora, the time
>>>>is come to do more for supporting
>>>>languages which are good enough
>>>>and stop searching for that elusive
>>>>perfect tongue.
>>>>
>>>>
>
>
>

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