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AUXLANG  June 2003, Week 4

AUXLANG June 2003, Week 4

Subject:

Re: Against dispersion

From:

Kjell Rehnstrom <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:44:42 +0200

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Multes apprendeva esperanto como le prime lingua international e pensava
que isto debe esser le logic solution del problema. Que cata persona
apprende esperanto, "autoevidente"! Ma cata persona non apprende
esperanto, nam cata persona non ha tempore o va probar deman o in le
anno proxime quando il ha plus de tempore.

Ma il ha alcun personas qui ha le tempore, le motivation e le
inteelligentia de apprender lo, ma jam in le prime annos de esperanto il
habeva personas qui non era satisfacite.

Alcun personas habeva jungite se a esperanto, nam volapük "non
functionava satisfactorimente".

Esperanto debeva suffrer le mesme medicina: Il habeva le reforma ido.

Sociologicamente on credeva que un tal reforma essera le solution, e il
es notabile que inter le duo mundial guerras le ido movimento era multo
grande.

Ma multes, inter altere inter le ducente personas, non acceptava ido ma
iva plus a Occidental, forsan inspirate per le Interlingua de Peano, lo
qual, si longe que Peano era active, habeva un significante influentia.

Quando interlingua de Gode (que alcunos prefere dicer) era publicate in
1951 illo comenciava de un poco altere maniera. Gode non relationava al
linguas cetere linguas auxiliar. Ille probava appellar al medio
(ambiente) academic e presentava interlingua como un scientific facto.

Secundo mi analyse il ha pro le momento duo forte linguas, esperanto
(per su numero de usatores e traditiones) e interlingua (per su
immediate comprensibilitate).

Ma pro que le auxiliar lingua de nostre election essera functionabile,
nos debe devenir multo habile in illo. Pro le momento il non ha senso
con interpretes de e al interlingua o esperanto (ego parla de
professionales, non de interpretes ad hoc). E il non ha un mercato por
tales - ancora.

On pote dicer que si un del duo linguas mentionate era usate in omne le
scholas del mundo le situation esserea melior, nam humanos in lor uso de
linguas proba "retrogreder, retrocaptar" a lo que illes ha apprendite in
le scola. Pro isto il es plus facile pro le feminas in Murmansk qui vole
contacto con su sorores (sistras) in Svedia probar apprender le svedese
o le anglese. Proque non esperanto, proque non interlingua? 1. Ille
humanos non era in le loco. 2. Mesmo, in le caso que si, ha il material?

Quasi nostre sonio de un simple medio de contacto international collide
con un realitate ubi on besonia multe bon dictionarios, clar e univoc
grammaticas. E le standard de multe material didactic in linguas
auxiliar es povre.

E le anglese ha le dictionarios le bon grammaticas, le bon cursos, e le
presentia de angloparlantes es et un avantage (in illo que il ha
milliones de personas qui sape le "juste parola" e le disavantage (in
illo que le native parlatores sempre habera un avantage in un maligne
excambio de parolas). In un accordo Pareto (secundo le italiano
Giuglielmo Pareto, qui es native parlator non importa, ma si il ha un
conflicto, ille qui usa su proprie lingua ha le avantage e le
adversarios qui non es native parlatores debe ir al inimico pro
information del juste parola e le adversario decide!

Il es clar que il es le cognoscentia de iste facto supporta le credentes
in le possibilitate de un lingua international.

Ha il un senso producer varie interlinguaclonos? Forsan, sub le
condition que on vermente succedera divulgar los e usar los, ma on debe
esser conscie del enorme labor que on debe facer. On non pote crear un
lingua durante un interactos (pausa) pro caffe. Il es non solo le
conscriber de grammaticas o dictionarios, on debe anque usar le lingua,
esser sufficientemente agradabile assi que altere humanos vole junger se
al lingua que on vole proponer :-) e il me pare que multe del creatores
de linguas ha in facto essite grande misantropos qui vide conspirationes
ubique!

Ecce ancora un obstaculo pro le divulgation de un auxiliar lingua :-)

Si on necessarimente vole facer un nove lingua, como debe illo apparer?
Ego crede un sorta de esperanto/interlingua ubi on non crea innecessari
difficultates con -n del accusativo e un obligatori accentuation. Assi:
usa le accento que es natural pro te (lo que le humanos nonobstante face
in interlingua, malgrado le grammatica. Demanda me, ego lo ha audite!)
Ma permitte ille inadvertentias.

Un totalmente nove lingua debera usar un maximo de linguage
immediatemente recognoscibile, illo debe haber un grammatica que attrahe
le voluntate de imitation. Illo pote ben esser un poco amusante.

Conclusion:
Non importa lo que ego dice. Omnes va sequer su via.

Kjell R

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