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AUXLANG  September 2003, Week 4

AUXLANG September 2003, Week 4

Subject:

la vopuko ou nova volapuko (kuesto esin: kostruasiono relativa ma firma de la cienco).

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Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo <[log in to unmask]>

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Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo <[log in to unmask]>

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Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:54:27 +0200

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    salutos, pu roio.
    dentro la tino komuna, naturamente, eksistan ninkuna letro muta; kueso
ronpun la principo mater la ortografio fonetika.
    kada letro representan una fonemo distinta, ei kada fonemo usan una
letra distinta; fonetismo ortografia absoluta.
    donke, la pronunciasiono de la parolo isa "kuesta" esan nondubidabla.
    tuo, roio, ankora mojan presentar kuesta demando: eske la sonoro "u"
dentro la parolo isa "kuesta" esan una vokalo plena ou una semivokalo?
    inoltre aki la respondo esan facila: la nuanco de semivokalasiono (komo
la nuanco de acentuasiono) non esan semantika dentro la tino, jamai
distingan signifikatos. donke, la pronunciasiono tipa esun komo "ku-es-ta",
kon acento en la duesma silabo; la regulo de acentuasiono tipa para la tino
indikan ke la acento de las parolos monosilabas aparan dentro la vokalo
unika de kuesas parolos, ei ke la acento de las parolos polisilabas aparan
dentro la preultima vokalo. sur las diptongos ei triptongos, la regulo
indikan ke kada vokalo esen pronuncata separatamente, sin diptongos,
triptongos ni semivokalos. ma, eske kuesto "prohiban" las diptongos ou la
acentuasiono dentro altras silabos de la parolo? non, prokue la gramatiko de
la tino esan deskriptiva inves preskriptiva. las nuancos de acento,
semivokalo, diptongo ou triptongo non esan signifantas dentro la tino, ansi
kualunko mojan kanbiar sin risko de malkonprenasiono pe la pronunciasiono
(inkluso pe la eskribasiono). donke, la pronunciasiono de isa "kuesta" komo
"kues-ta", ei inkluso la eskribasiono komo "kwesta", esan aferos lejitimas;
sibian la pronunciasiono komo "ku-es-ta", ma acentando la unesma silabo. mio
rekomendan acentar senpre la preultima silabo, non usar semivokalos ei non
eskribar las semivokalos isa "wo" ei isa "yo", ma las parolantos dentro la
tino decidan, komo senpre.
    resumamente: dentro la fasilinguo komuna non eksistan digrafos ni
difonos.
    se mio interpretan ben tua respondasiono sur la kuanteso ideala de
fonemos dentro una bona planbahaso, tuo opinan ke kuesa kuanteso esun la
maksimo de fonemos usablas via la alfabeto latina, eske non? se si, donke
segon la principo fonetika estrikta ono usun dudecoseisas (26) fonemos; via
digrafos ei trigrafos ono mojun usar inkluso cinkodecas (50) fonemos ou
plus.
    ono devan nuancar, senpre, ke la eskribasiono esan una afero sekondara;
kualunka bahaso reala esan una afero parolata; la parolasiono non
"representan" pe la eskribasiono ou pe la braijo; esan la braijo ou la
eskribasiono kualos representan pe la parolasiono. donke, la aktuala
alfabeto latina non esan una kriterio especifa para determinar la kuanteso
de fonemos ideala en una bona planbahaso.
    mio redikan: la kuanteso ideala estun dentro la intervalo inter dudecas
(20) ei dudecokuatras (24) fonemos. eske pe kualo opinan tuo?

    eis altra afero, tre diferanta ma algo relacionata.

    alkunas disopinantos sur la developimento aktuala de la volapukismo
decidin operar nar la kontrolo de la akademio de volapuko ei de las
volapukistos kios usan solamente la ingliko komo bahaso para docentar la
volapuko ou preparar dicionarios de volapuko.
    nosos, las disopinantos, pensan ke aktualamente la volapukismo
maljenerin verso una uso esterila inter parolantos kios ja parolan tre ben
la ingliko. la komunikasiono via la volapuko inter duas parolantos restan
kuasi nonposibla se ninkuno mater la duo konocan la ingliko (para aprendar
la vokabularo, eksenplamente). kuesto inplikan kostruar dicionaros de
volapuko verso altras bahasos ei reformar las aspektos defektojas de la
volapuko.
    primo, la nomo: la volapuko reformata esun nomata isa "nova volapuko",
ou plus kurtamente, isa "vopuko"; la volapuko devun tenar una nomo kurta ei
nonkonfusabla, kon radiko semantika simpla, donke la parolo "vopuko", de
sonoro forta ei enerjia, donan bona impresasiono ei rememoran la formo
tradiciona, "volapuko".
    sur la projekto, vosos opinen. kuesta nova listo, isa "Volapük e
vödasbuk", acesabla via la internetero isa
http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/volapukevoydasbuk/, esan liberoja
(liberala) ei ninkuno diritan inposar sua opinasiono ba las altros. ma mio,
aki, donon unas principos jeneralas segon mia opinasiono.
    fonetikamente, las vokalos intermedias esan dificilamente audablas,
donke las trias vokalos "ä, ö, ü" disaparun, ansi facilando inoltre la
eskribasiono (la vopuko restun eskribabla senpre sin signos especialas, sel
via la alfabeto latina basa).
    ortografiamente, devun disaparar la digrafo "x"; la valoro tipa esun,
naturamente, eskribata komo "ks". ma, dentro situacionos dove la sonoro ko
esun dificilamente pronuncabla, ono mojan sinplar la grupo tien ko plus so
verso la unika sonoro isa "so", eskribando komo "s", ei sin granda risko de
malkonprenasiono.
    mio proponan, donke, una ortografio konpletamente fonetika para la
vopuko, sin digrafos, difonos ni signos especialas. la alfabeto esun: "a, b,
c, d, e, f, g, h, i, j, k, l, m, n, o, p, r, s, t, u, v, y, z". kuestas
dudecocinkas (25) letros representun las mismas dudecocinkas fonemos pe
kualos itos representin en la antika volapuko.
    la acento aparun senpre en la ultima silabo, komo en la antika volapuko;
ma menan, sin ececionos.
    la vokabularo devan restar rekonocabla; la apriorismo nonrekonocabla de
la antika volapuko esan, abofe, la defekto sua plus inportanta.
    mio non proponan repetar la vokabularo latinoida de las euroklonos komo
la espo (esperanto), la ido, la novialo, la interlinguo, la tino, la
komunikandiko, la ekspreso, la ulango, ecetera, prokue alora non tenun
intereso reformar la volapuko ei esun preferabla la uso direkta de alkuna
euroklono ja eksistanta kon certas reformos. nosos devun profitar la
espirito de la volapuko. kuesa espirito indikan ke, semantikamente, la
bahaso devun esar neutra (las euroklonos non esan semantikamente neutras).
ma pe kuesa neutreso ono mojan otenar kon rekonocimento facila de las
radikos semantikas.
    eis mia proponasiono: la vopuko prendun sua vokabularo mater las bahasos
nacionas plus parolatas, representando, komo minimo, pe las duas triomos
(2/3) de la uomalo. la vokabularo ocidenta tenun la limito de una triomo
(1/3) dentro la totalo, ansi la bahaso non esun visionata komo una armo de
la inperialismo kultura ocidenta. las altras duas triomos (2/3) restun para
las bahasos narocidentas plus parolatas ei inoltre para bahasos kon pokas
parolantos ma kualos, por neutreso ou nuancasiono, tenan parolos pe kualos
ono devun profitar.
    ninkuna granda rejiono de la mondo restun sin donar radikos semantikas;
eis, aparon parolos dentro la vokabularo basa de la vopuko mater isa
nordameriko, isa centrameriko, isa sudameriko, isa europo, isa asio, isa
afriko, isa australijo ei isa oceanido; eis, ono profitun bahasos naskivas
de kuestas rejionos totas para prendar radikos semantikas, naturamente kon
certa prefereso verso las bahasos plus parolatas ei las radikos plus
komunas.
    inversamente ba la antika volapuko, dentro la vopuko las radikos
semantikas eson maksimamente trasaparantas ei rekonocablas, sin plus
trasformasionos ke las necesatas para una pronunciasiono facila.
    la morfolojio, la sintakso ei la gramatiko de la volapuko non tenun
grandas trasformasionos, ma probablamente las parolantos de la vopuko, la
nova volapuko, sinplun la konjugasiono verba ei sinplun ou abolun la
deklinasiono sustantiva.
    amikamente, fa isa alesandrulo.

    ----- mesajo orijina -----

    pracrito scribin:
    > se altras usantos de planbahasos, usando una ortografio fonetika komo
kuesta (sin digrafos ni difonos)
    Qu via "ku" ne estan digrafo? Qu tio ne estu "kw", o simple "k", por
sendigrafeso?
    > ei mio profitan kuesta mesajo para demandar: segon vosos, eske kuantas
fonemos esun idealas para una bona planbahaso?
    Tiome ciome pley aptas por la 26-litera latina alfabeto.
    Roy

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