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CONLANG  December 2003, Week 1

CONLANG December 2003, Week 1

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Re: OT: French/English etymology question: "sauf"/"save"

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Benct Philip Jonsson <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 7 Dec 2003 17:51:17 +0100

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At 00:42 7.12.2003, Andreas Johansson wrote:

>Tangentially, I'd always thout using |^| to indicate what in IPA are
>superscripts would be huge improvement, aesthetically and mnemonically, for
>CXS and X-SAMPA.

I agree. I'n my (incomplete) scheme for coding
Ladefoged's feature system in ASCII (by design
rather similar to X-SAMPA, but not a transliteration
of the IPA) I used ^ to denote '-ized' features, so
that e.g. ^j was 'palatalized' while _j was palatal.


> > I also use /8/ as the phonemic symbol in X-SAMPA/CXS.
> >
> > For what its worth I arrange the Swedish vowel
> > phonemes in a quadrangular like so:
> >
> > i y u
> >
> > e u
> >
> > a
> >
> > which may seem over-idealized from the POV of
> > your 'lect.
>
>Indeed! BTW, I assume that upper right "u" is meant to be an "o"?


Ooops yes, it should'a been:

  i y o

  e u

   a

But tell me, would you like this better?

i y o

    e u

        a

I dislike it since it totally lacks symmetry.


> > Mind you my 'lect_1 has 12 vowel
> > phonemes, distinguishing /8/ from /2_w/,
> > /a/ from /A/ and /3\/ from /2/, all 12 occurring
> > both long and short. OTOH [A(:)] and [Q(:)]
> > seem to be in complementary distribution.
>
>Well, as you will recall, I want to analyze my 'lect as having phonemic
>length, for a total of 18 vocalic phonemes (that includes the diphthong /au/).


/BP 8^)
--
B.Philip Jonsson mailto:[log in to unmask] (delete X)
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