On Friday, January 9, 2004, at 04:46 PM, Paul Roser wrote:

> On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 06:31:24 +0000, Ray Brown <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

[snip]
>> But, to return to [sl] - it doesn't have to be initial, nor do you
>> have to go through [hl] for the sound to change to [K].  I remember
>> hearing on my bus journey a few weeks back an obviously native Brit
>> woman, speaking with an otherwise colloquial north Surrey accent,
>> consistently pronouncing 'dyslexix' as [dI"KEksIk].
>
> I'm not sure what speech pathologists call it, but I believe that
> lateral lisping is not uncommon - did she only do it with /sl-/ clusters
> and not on all occurences of /s/?

The ordinary /s/ was unaffected - only the /sl/ combo became [K].

> If only with /sl/ then I guess her
> idiolect has acquired an interesting shift - one wonders if it is
> peculiar to her or occurs with other members of her family or locality?

Definitely not the locality (I don't know about her family)

>
> The extIPA for 'disordered' speech also includes symbols for combinations
> of central + lateral fricatives - something like the simultaneous
> pronunciation of /K/ and /S/ I gather.

But [K] itself is more or less /l/ and /S/ pronounced simultaneously.  I
remember,
when I lived in Wales, being told that Welsh 'pwll' was like pronouncing
English
'pull' and 'push' at the same time   :)

Ray
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