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AUXLANG February 2004, Week 1

Subject:

Re: Le ortografia collateral de interlingua

From:

Santiago Donjon <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 5 Feb 2004 00:21:12 +0100

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L'orthographe collatérale est condamnée.

 --- Thomas Alexander <[log in to unmask]> a écrit :
> Also includes replies to the thread 'Re: Personal
> Response to "The Main Advantages of Ido"'
>
> James asked Jay:
>
> > Please give an estimate for the percentage of
> > messages on Interlng written in collateral
> > orthography during the last year.
>
> I'm not sure what that would prove (or whether Jay
> will have already replied before I can get logged on
> to send this message).  I personally haven't noticed
> any in the months I've been on that list - but that
> doesn't mean anything.  I did notice in Panorama
> that
> there were quotes from several people who used "es"
> without the dummy pronoun "il" (something along the
> lines of "es bon que nos lo face.")  Since this
> impersonal use of esser is allowed in the collateral
> orthography, I was curious whether these people used
> that system --- although not curious enough to
> actually look into it, or study they spelling in
> which
> the quotes were written.
>
> One thing that comes to mind are the notes written
> in
> INTERLNG by novices in clear but flawed Interlingua
> and the gushing praise which follows from the
> veterans.  I'm not saying that such praise is not
> deserved in these situations (In fact I'm sure it is
> deserved), but I would have stopped short of using
> words like "perfect."  In fact, Jay said someting
> along these lines...
>
> > Alco que me place multo es le
> > libertate que offere Interlingua.
> > On non es controllate per qualque
> > "Fundamento" o "Academia" le
> > lingua vive e illo devenira lo que
> > le usatores vole, assi como un
> > lingua natural illo cambiara.
>
> The problem with this 'libertate' is that many
> people
> take it too far.  Esperanto has seen no shortage of
> reformemuloj, but it is tempered by a large body of
> people who learn the real, living, current language
> as
> it is.  Beyond the one very visible person in
> INTERLNG
> who describes Interlingua as a "pick and choose"
> language and thus writes however he darn well
> pleases
> (and his style darn well pleases just about only
> him)
> there are the "de facto" reformers (not my term) of
> interlingua which include some well known and
> respected interlinguans known to many of us here.
>
> Perhaps this is really a situation in that the
> reformemuloj are simply just more visible in
> Interlingua.  I don't know.  In any case, it is
> difficult for me to agree that "everbody writes
> according to different rules" is a sign that a
> "lingua vive."
>
> All this, it seems to me, is a social issue, and not
> the result of the fundamentals of the languages
> themselves.  After all, Interlingua does have its
> own
> "fundamento."  The problem is that different people
> who use Interlingua have their own ideas about what
> exactly this fundamento is.  (IED?  Usage in
> Panorama?
> A $1000 collection of romance dictionaries?)
>
> Amike,
> Tomaso
>
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