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CONLANG  April 2004, Week 3

CONLANG April 2004, Week 3

Subject:

Mammal, their names are called (was Re: When is plural applied?)

From:

Jonathan Knibb <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 17 Apr 2004 11:15:21 +0100

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Herman Miller wrote:
>>>
I see a need for a generic NON-technical word to describe a particular
kind of animal, such as a deer or fox, while excluding other kinds of
animals, such as frogs and lizards. Now, this is a category that
doesn't map well to English, and might not map well to other languages
either, but isn't that one of the points of designing your own
vocabulary?

[...] words like "sevich" meaning "to pass, to traverse, go through
(or past), come through (or past)". Well, it means more or less the
same as "traverse", but it's more generically used than the English
equivalent, substituting for English phrases like "walk up" (the hill)
and "go through" (the door). But I've never really had the time to do
much of this kind of exercise with Lindiga.

[...] the possibility of defining words in the lexicon (with usage
examples) that don't precisely match anyone's L1 habits (it's at least
better than copying English, I think).
<<<

I completely agree with you that this lexical-semantic idiosyncrasy is
crucial to an interesting conlang.  It's actually my favourite part of
conlanging, although like you I find it terribly time-consuming and
effortful.  In designing a conlang's phonology or syntax, one strikes
a balance between what is humanly possible in terms of competence and
performance, and what is sufficiently different from known languages
to be interesting - the same should apply to lexical semantics.

Especially when dealing with alien conlangs, one will naturally
consider the semantic 'shapes' of the lexicon as a guide to the
aliens' culture and ways of thinking (maybe even with human languages
of unfamiliar cultures).  But using this model, it is easy to miss the
point that lexis is _only_ a guide to the semantic content of thought,
and that an individual uses many concepts which do not correspond to
words in their lexicon.

Moreover, there are some concepts which are easily lexicalised even if
a particular individual hasn't thought in precisely that way before**,
and others which are not (technical terms in unfamiliar fields, for
example).  The interest lies in finding out which is which, and for me
this is achieved largely by introspection, and observation of everyday
language use.  I can certainly imagine, though, that the corresponding
feat with respect to an alien conlang would take much more creative
power.  Perhaps I should try conculturing after all...

Jonathan.

** Douglas Adams' "Meaning of Liff" keeps coming to mind in this
discussion - if anyone out there hasn't read it (preferably with its
companion volume, "Deeper Meaning of Liff"), then I would heartily
recommend it as a case study in lexical conlanging ... it's very funny
too. :)

[reply to jonathan underscore knibb at hotmail dot com]
--
'O dear white children casual as birds,
Playing among the ruined languages...'
Auden/Britten, 'Hymn to St. Cecilia'

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