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CONLANG  June 2004, Week 2

CONLANG June 2004, Week 2

Subject:

My conlang Nemalo

From:

Hemmo <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 8 Jun 2004 12:25:36 -0400

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>Then learn it. "Pronounced like" descriptions are well-known to mean
>nothing to most people. You really need to learn IPA and at least its
>X-SAMPA transcription, or you won't ever be able to describe sounds in a
>meaningful way here. I will show you why immediately.

I see what you mean, but I don't think pronouncuation is the most important
thing. I'll try to make some Sampa list later.

>>&#349; (S with ^): like English SH

>Please no HTML entities in e-mail. HTML is for webpages. For e-mail, use a
>transliteration, a description (like you do otherwise) or point out to a
>webpage with some info. But no HTML of any kind in e-mail, please.

It got converted automaticly, I send this via the web-interface of
brown.edu, I don't really know how posting via Outlook works.

>Most people don't know how this is pronounced. And do you mean /ej/, /Ej/,
>/aj/ or /E/ (all four pronunciations current in various Dutch dialects.
>There are more).

I just assumed the 'official' sound, not the sound of some dialect.

>>E, short: Like short E in Spanish, English, Dutch, but not as a sjwa

>The English spelling is "schwa" :) .

Like Pet for example, but I guess this too it's pronounced differently.

>By the way, I don't see "é" anywhere in this description, yet it is in the
>name of your conlang. What does it represent?

When a word is written, and a sound is short but should be long, it gets a
´-symbol (aigu?), and the opposite: when a sound is written long but should
be short, it gets a `-symbol (grave?).

I devide word like:
(A = vowel, B=not a vowel)
ABA - both vowels are long
BAB - vowel is short
AB - vowel is short
BA - vowel is long, exept when it's the last letter of a word other than E
A - vowel is short

it's a bit like English: hop has a short vowel, but hope a long one. Némalo
makes it hóp. I hope this makes it a bit clear because it's hard to explain
for me.

>You really should learn the IPA and X-SAMPA (or at least the slightly
>different form we use here). To learn the IPA, go here:
>http://www.ling.hf.ntnu.no/ipa/full/ It has sounds, so you'll know exactly
>what each symbol refers too. And for the transliteration used here, go to:
>http://cassowary.free.fr/Linguistics/cxschart.png That's the chart we use.

>While we're at it, here's the main site we give for newcomers to look at:
>http://www.ling.su.se/lingonord/conlanglinks/ :)

Thanks, I'll have a look, but the chart makes no sence to me


>Nouns in your language don't have plural? Nice :)

No, but some prepositions do.


>I fear to ask why this choice of vocabulary ;) .

What is wrong with it?


>>*) exept when the direct object is equal to the subject.

>What do you do then? :)

Kasto vios bęlo - The house is blue - the blue thing is the same as the
house, so it's the same;
Watudo posydos kastu - The man gets a house - the man is not the same as the
house.
So, when it's equal, it gets an O, otherwise it doesn't.


>>Adverbs usually end with I.

>All adverbs or only adverbs derived from adjectives?

Only adverbs derived from adjectives and some others.


>>Words: >One word is always written as one word, unlike English does.

>?

English words can sometimes be written as two (or more) words, like "USB
cable" or "web development" - it's one thing but has two words. Némalo
always uses one word, like Dutch or German: "USB-kabel"/"webontwikkeling".


>/ej/ as a binding sound? That's strange. Normally binding sounds are much
>more neutral (i.e. usually just schwa or similar). Any reason for this >choice?

No.

>>Articles are only used when necesary. They can indicate if a word is
>>singular/plural or which case it should have. This is only used when a
>word >doesn't end with its own -o/-u/-um.

>And when does this happen?

With words that don't always end with an O, usually words derived from
something else: watudo (person/people) -> watudok (man). If you need to show
the word is in some part of a sentence, just give it an article:

watudo - (eso) watudok
watudu - (esu) watudok
watudum - (esum) watudok


Thanks for your help.

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