--- "Ph. D." <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Aaron Grahn wrote:
> > Is there a good way to introduce a subordinate
> clause without a
> > particle? For instance in
> > The dog with the man that I saw was green.
> > the relative clause is introduced with "that".
> This is probably a bad
> > example, because English doesn't really
> distinguish (except by word
> > order) which one I saw, and which one was with the
> one that I saw, but
> > assume I saw a dog, the dog was with a man, and
> the dog was green.
I think that in Turkish you use participles for
relative clauses, and it comes out something like:
greening dog with-man I saw
Turkish doesn't use articles, adjectives precede nouns
and there's accusative case, so it's less amibuous
than my rough translation suggests.
Some other languages might put it together as:
The dog, the green one with the man I saw.
> I haven't worked out the vocabulary yet, but in my
> language Uteg,
> this would be:
> Was-green the dog with the man seen-by-me.
> Generally there is no special word or particle to
> introduce a
> relative clause, but the headword must serve as the
> of the relative clause. (Verbs have forms for
> active, passive,
> and possibly oblique.)
> > ROMANI
> > ITE
> > DOMUM
> This reminds me of the scene in the film "Life of
> Brian" where
> Brian paints "ROMANES EUNT DOMUS" on the side of a
> public building during the night, but gets caught by
> a centurion
> who helps him with his Latin.
> --Ph. D.
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