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AUXLANG  July 2004, Week 1

AUXLANG July 2004, Week 1

Subject:

Re: Interlingua sin dogmas (iste esava: Interlingua posibile).

From:

Kjell Rehnström <[log in to unmask]>

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International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 3 Jul 2004 09:00:29 +0200

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2004-07-02 kl. 11.31 skrev Alexandre Xavier Casanova Domingo:

>        Salute, Cel.
>
>        Dunke, interlingua non esa un sekta, ma le interlinguaismo esa
> un sekta, komo le idismo, le novialismo, le volapukismo, le
> esperantismo, ecetera, esa sektas. In le linguistika non eksista
> limite a priori inter un lingua ed altere lingua. Solamente un sekta,
> per eksenplo, pota fiksar a priori ke Ido ed Esperanto "esa duo
> linguas, non duo variantes de un sol lingua".

Tu oration de "sectas" ci e la, sembla a me esser un sorta de
projection, viste que tu ipse demonstra plure signos de un secta (si
nunc un persona pote formar uno (!) ), a saper le macellation de
nomines, pro exemplo mi proprie. Il es un completamente altere cosa si
on usa un altere alfabeto, in ille caso un transcription es necesse, ma
al minus ego me ascribe le derecto como ego vole esser appellate.

>        Solamente un sekta pota fiksar a priori ke le romanika de Josu
> Lavin o le sermo de Jose Soares non esa interlingua; o ke,
> efektivamente, le duo formas esa interlingua. Realamente,
> cientifikamente, le limites absolute inter le linguas esa absurde, non
> eksista.

Un differentia non disappare solo pro le mer facto que on lo nega. E le
romanica e sermo es sortas de interlingua, ma illos non es le
interlingua de IALA.

Ego vole vider le probas attachar se al interlingua como un proba de
utilisar le labor jam facite per alteres. Si le propagatores de altere
linguas, simile a interlingua vole utilisar lor linguas e propagar los
independentemente, ego ha nihil contra isto. Bon. Quanto a roanica, que
ego ha legite bastante sovente, illo es plenmente comprensibile pro un
interlingua (IALA)-parlante tanto como lo es occidental/interlinguE.
Isto constitue le mesme intercomprensibilitate que inter le grande
linguas scandinave. Ma del altere latere isto non significa que ego
pote dicer que svedese es norvegiano. Le entusiasmo de un tal dicto in
Norvegia es - ego osa sublinear - multo parve!

Ego trova isto un grande error in le propagatores de linguas artificial
que illos - e ora ego generalisa - in loco de facer su proprie labor,
illes se accola al grande linguas, como esperanto o interlingua e
mantene que le proprie modelo es melior que esperanto o interlingua in
loco de ir al publico e dicer: "Ecce nos ha un excellente medio de
communication international. Proba lo!"

On pote mantener que appellar le lingua interlingua e lo poner in le
guisa de interlingua de IALA es un sorta de cleptomania.

>  E le negationes falsa re le grande diferentias inter le linguas
> neolatino od inter le linguas arabe esa alsi absurde.

Vole tu dicer que le linguas neolatin non differe multo inter se, e que
le formas de arabe non differe multo inter se o vole tu dicer que le
differentias inter neoromanic linguas e arabe non es grande?

Ego non pote pronunciar me del differentias inter le varie variantes de
arabe. Ego toto simple non cognosce iste campo e non pote pronunciar un
opinion.

Si tu per linguas neoromannic vole dicer que le differentias non es
grande, isto es possibile. Nonobstante ego ha audite duo personas
conversar in anglese, e secundo le accentos un debe haber essite
italian e le altere espaniol. Forsan illes lo faceva pro practicar lor
anglese...


> Le sektas linguistik e le akademias re le lingua, frekue, tanto separa
> formas de le mesme lingua kuanto identifika linguas mutuamente
> inkonprehensibiles komo formas de un mesme lingua. Ma le veritate
> cientifik esa ke ni eksistan limites absolute inter le linguas ni le
> linguas o dialektos simile esa senpre interkonprehensibile. Iste
> veritate esa, evidentamente, linguistika elemental, linguistika de
> prime kurso, ma inkluse iste veritate kuasi banal remana ignorate de
> le akademias re le lingua o de le movimentos pro un planlingua
> sektari.

Parolas, parolas parolas....
>
>        Nos necesita interlingua sin interlinguaismo, komo nos necesita
> sermo sin sermismo, ikuso sin ikusismo, (etc. etc. etc....)

Qui es el "nos" qui "necesita"? Il ha nihil plus comic que un
individual qui mantene que ille represnta qualcosa de massa. Tu forsan
pensa assi. Ben. Nulle problema, ma non include me in iste "nos", per
favor!
>        Tu dica: "Iste esa: le maniera in le kual tu eskriba non esa
> interlingua e le listas ke eksista esa pro praktikar interlingua, non
> un forma alterate o un simile lingua, non pro eksenplo okcidental.".
> Ma ora eksista un lista pro praktikar interlingua, e formas alterate
> de interlingua, e simile linguas komo okcidental o novial: le lista
> "Romanika libre". In iste lista, on pota praktikar e dialogar inter
> tute le linguas o dialektos planate de tendentia naturalista, sin
> limites. Adresa internetik:
> http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/romanicalibre/.
>

On pote plenmente sperar que iste lista de libre discussion habera un
massa de usatores!

Kjell R

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