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Fwd: Re: TERMINOLOGY: Re: another new language to check out

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Christophe Grandsire <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

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Oops, a wrong movement sent the post when I wasn't finished. Sorry about 
that :(( .

>To: Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>
>From: Christophe Grandsire <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: TERMINOLOGY: Re: another new language to check out
>Cc:
>Bcc:
>X-TransWinRQD: <2505.0002>
>X-Eudora-Signature: <Standard>
>Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 21:01:13 +0200
>
>
>En réponse à Mark J. Reed :
>
>
>>It seems to be mostly agglutinative, but it "feels" inflected to me.
>
>That's because it was consciously designed in such a way. Zamenhof himself 
>wrote in one of his letters that he designed Esperanto as an isolating 
>language (nearly all the affixes can be used as full words) but 
>masqueraded it by careful design as an inflected language, because he felt 
>Europeans wouldn't adopt it if it felt too foreign to them. And the world 
>being as it was more than a century ago, it was all that mattered at that time.
>________________________________________________________________________
>En réponse à Chris Bates :
>
>
>>Is it still a pidgin? I've been waiting for it to creolize before I try
>>learning it. :( Only problem is, you need a community who actually use
>>the language regularly for that to happen....
>
>In my experience, it has never been a pidgin (but that's not a problem, 
>quite a few creoles around here have had no pidgin state). Creole is not 
>quite the right word, but fits if you're not too strict about its definition.
>
>And the community has used it enough for entire books' worth of 
>Esperantisms (expressions that are peculiar to Esperanto), play on words 
>untranslatable in other languages, turns of phrases that Zamenhof didn't 
>expect or use but are allowed and even encouraged by the rules of the 
>language, etc... to appear (they make the language a bit more difficult to 
>learn, but in an unbiased way, since those specificities are not 
>Euro-centric). My short stay within the Esperantist community has 
>convinced me that while the language will never become the world's IAL, it 
>will carry on being used by an international community that may not grow 
>much, but will not shrink either.

Christophe Grandsire.

http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr

You need a straight mind to invent a twisted conlang. 

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