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CONLANG  October 2004, Week 4

CONLANG October 2004, Week 4

Subject:

Re: Question about Latin.

From:

Dirk Elzinga <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:59:53 -0600

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On Oct 27, 2004, at 6:31 AM, Thomas R. Wier wrote:

> From:    John Leland <[log in to unmask]>
>> I have always wondered if the Korean particle -kwa, which is used
>> very much
>> as -que is used in Latin could be related,  or if that is just a
>> coincidence.
>> Certainly if the languages asa whole are related it must be very
>> distantly.
>
> Almost certainly, they are not related.  Such chance similarities
> arise all the time between any two given languages, whether or not
> they are related: English 'bad' is not cognate with Persian /b&d/,
> but they mean the same thing; mod. Greek _oma_ 'eye' is likewise not
> related to Malay _oma_ 'eye'.  Mark Rosenfelder has a good essay
> on the subject:
>
> <http://zompist.com/chance.htm>
>
> NB his comparison of Quechua and Semitic lexical items.

I have also begun compiling a list of false friends in English and
Shoshoni that I use when talking about the comparative method in my
classes:

kimma 'come' (come)
soosi 'foamy' (suds)
aantsi?i 'termite' (ant)
h1na(-pin) 'bitter brush' (henna)
nana 'relative' (nana)
papi 'older brother' (papa)
p1s1 'it-/her-/himself' (person)
poyokka 'trot' (polka)
m1a 'moon' (moon)
taipoo [taiBo:] 'white man' (devil)

At least one of these has entered folk etymology status among Shoshonis
-- _taipoo_ 'white man' < 'devil'. It actually comes from the stem
_t1poo-_ meaning 'write, mark'.

Dirk
--
Dirk Elzinga
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"I believe that phonology is superior to music. It is more variable and
its pecuniary possibilities are far greater." - Erik Satie

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