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CONLANG  November 2004, Week 1

CONLANG November 2004, Week 1

Subject:

Re: USAGE: rhotics (was: Advanced English + Babel text)

From:

"J. 'Mach' Wust" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 4 Nov 2004 13:52:53 -0500

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On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 10:36:36 -0500, Pascal A. Kramm <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 14:37:56 -0500, J. 'Mach' Wust <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
>
>>Because of the /r/-realization? I would have said that the French accent
>>of German isn't characterized by a specific realization of /r/, but rather
>>(by rhythm and melody, of course) by the realization of /Á/ , /h/ and /i/.
>
>If someone here in Germany wants to imitate a French dialect, he'll most
>notably omit the initial "h" sound (e.g. turning "hotel" into "otel"), and
>pronounce the German "ch" as "sh".

That's what I said, and also [i] instead of [I]. Additionally, the stops
aren't aspirated.

>>|SchwyzerdŁtsch| and |SchwiizertŁtsch| may be the most common ways to
>>write it, but many variations are possible (the |y| is used for /i/ as
>>opposed to |i| for /I/, but not all share this use).
>
>Most common is "SchwyzerdŁtsch", but I've also seen "SchwyzertŁtsch"
>sometimes. Never with the double i, however.

Google has more hits for "SchwiizerdŁtsch" than for "SchwyzertŁtsch". You'll
also find it with |yy| or |i| instead of |y|, with |tz| instead of |z| or
with |ŁŁ| instead of |Ł| (almost every permutation has hits). I've even
found a single hit of "SchwyzrdŁtsch" without |e|, which makes sense since
the /r/ is syllabic (as for the rhotics). ;)

gry@s:
j. 'mach' wust

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