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AUXLANG  August 2005, Week 2

AUXLANG August 2005, Week 2

Subject:

Re: "Nam" es latino classic (era: Sample text in Interlingua)

From:

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International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 14 Aug 2005 00:47:57 -0700

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Ultra "tosto" in le italiano il ha "tost" in catalan e
provençal. Le parola existeva anque in espaniol
ancian.

E como Kjell le Fluvio dice, isto corresponde a "tôt"
in francese. On dice anque "bientôt" in francese, lo
que corresponde a "bentosto" in italiano.

Le origine del parola es interesssante: In le latino
"tostus" significa "tostate", alora il sembla que le
senso metaphoric esseva "quando ancora calide". 

Quanto a "deficit", isto es un verbo in latino con le
senso "il defice, il es deficiente". Pro isto nulle
"o" final. 

Don le Fulmine

--- Kjell Rehnstrom <[log in to unmask]> scribeva:

> Thomas Alexander wrote:
> 
> >En la itala.  Tion mi ne tuj sciis de mi mem
> >(malgraux tio, ke mi ja lernis la italan), sed mi
> >devis kontroli en la Etimologia Vortaro de
> Esperanto
> >(utila ankaux por Interlinguanoj.)  Mi supozas,
> tamen,
> >ke vi ne pretendas ke "tosto" ne ekzistas en
> moderna
> >lingvo, sed simple ke la fontlingvo de tiu esprimo
> ne
> >estas memevidente por persono kiu ne jam konas
> gxin.
> >
> Si, tu ha ration. Tosto existe in le italiano. Ego
> pensava que le forma 
> interlingua era un reconstruction basate solo in le
> francese "tôt". 
> Sovente quando on vide un ^ in francese on pote
> supponer que il ha un 
> historic -s- que se realisa in interlingua. E ego
> pensava que il habeva 
> un tal forma sin un verificabile exemplo in un
> lingua romanic.
> 
> In le intro inn le IED il dice que un via pro
> producer un parola 
> interlingua es que on prende le ablativo de un
> parola latin, e isto es 
> in general le parola interlingua, sed ego comprende
> que Gode et 
> consortes non opina isto esser le juste via sed un
> methodo surrogate.
> 
> Sed considera "puero" in latino illo es "puer" in le
> nominativo e puero 
> in le ablativo, "ma isto non se conta". Ubi ha on,
> si on es stricte 
> trovate le -o si non que on ha supponite que un
> parola interlingua "debe 
> haber iste forma" e si "puer" haberea existite in le
> linguas fonte in 
> nostre dies, on haberea usate "puero". Isto debe
> esser le explication.
> 
> Ego credeva que "deficit" se fini per -o como
> "transito", ma non. Ego 
> debe saper que le parola non es *deficito sed justo
> "deficit", ma le 
> altere parolas de contabilitate fini per -o: debito,
> credito!
> 
> In un futuro, quando le usatores sempre non habera
> un dictionario a mano 
> on certo va generalisar iste parolas!
> 
> Ma un parola como "securitate" existe solo como le
> nomine del policia de 
> securitate in Romania! e universitate existe solo
> como tal inn latviano!
> 
> Pro mi parte personal ego ha sempre essite
> surprendite que "volta" del 
> italiano non era seligite pro "vice" si on considera
> que illo es 
> international in le musica (prima, seconda volta =
> prime, secunde vice)  
> e significa "sojorno in prision" in svedese. Ille ha
> facite 2 voltas" = 
> Ille ha sedite in prision 2 vices" ! Naturalmente
> "vez" e "fois" es 
> relate. Il es interessante que occidental ha "vez"
> ma que nulle lingua 
> ha "volta" lo que vermente es internationalmente
> comprensibile!
> 
> > Fakte, mi tre dubas cxu mi komprenis "tosto" kiam
> mi
> >
> >komencis kompreni Interlinguon. Mi skribis en
> Interlng
> >en la jaro 2003 ke mi nur tiam lernis la vorton
> >"tosto", kaj ke mi jam konis la vorton "mox."
> >
> Isto depende de qual parolas on ha vidite primo. Tu
> pote comparar con 
> serbocroato, que nunc es serbo e croato, ma in le
> vetere tempores il 
> poteva occurrer que on sapeva le parola croate ma
> non le collateral 
> serbe! illos non era synonymos in le normal senso
> del parola e on non 
> debeva mixar ambe le parolas in le mesme texto!
> 
> In le pessime caso interlingua se dividera in
> "bleriano" (Interlingua de 
> Blair), Godeano (strictemente secundo le IED),
> europeo (ia usate per le 
> europeos e alcun alteres quei lo va appellar
> interlingua international 
> :-) e le lingua del constructor
> cuje-nomine-on-non-debe-mentionar (cuje 
> nomine non est mentionandum!) que se appellara
> "interlingua scientific".
> 
> Kjell R
> 


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