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CONLANG  November 2005, Week 1

CONLANG November 2005, Week 1

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Re: Survey(?) of ConLangs' Calendars and Colors and Kinterms

From:

Carsten Becker <[log in to unmask]>

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Date:

Tue, 1 Nov 2005 16:28:39 +0100

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On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, 21:54 CEST, Tom Chappell wrote:

 > What kind of calendar does your conlang and/or conculture
 > include?

I answer this question with quotes:

  On Fri, 03 Dec 2004, 18:43 CET, I wrote:

  > Although the years on Areca are ~455.75 days, their
  > years are shorter than ours because the planet moves 1.2 times
  > faster than Earth (1 e-sec ~5/6 a-sec). I.e. the Arecan
  > year is about 8,75 weeks shorter than ours.

  On Sun, 26 Dec 2004, 14:34 CET, I wrote:

  > There are two moons, Cimban (the Hunter) and Vicama (the
  > Firebird) whom he chases. <-- Also try Instant
  > Mythology(tm) :P
  >
  > However, the year is supposed to have 455.75 days, which
  > equals 379.791667 earth days. People count 456 days of
  > course, just like our year has 365 days, not 365.25!
  >
  > Because Vicama is so far away, it is only visible
  > similar to Venus (the morning & evening star), a very
  > bright spot thus.
  >
  > CIMBAN: 24 days (full moon -> full moon)
  > 324 days (position -> same position)
  > => averagely 18.98958333 (~18) months/year,
  > resting 24 days are a special, 19th month at
  > the end of the year
  >
  > VICAMA: 60 days (full moon -> full moon)
  > 608 days (position -> same position)
  > => averagely 7.5958333 (~7) months
  > 36 days/year left! --- What do do with them?!

(I assumed that the moons' orbits are fixed and thus return
to the same positions every X days)

[snip]

  > Month: full moon -> full moon = 24/60 days
  > Year: summer solstice -> summer solstice = 455.75 days
  >
  > By fiddling around a bit with the given numbers, you
  > additionally get the following units:
  >
  > Millenium: 12*Century
  > Century: conjunction between both moons = 108 years
  > Decade: Century/8 = 6156 days = 13.5074538 years

[snip]

  > Now for the rough bugfixes!
  >
  > Each year has 0.25 days too much, so there must be 1 day
  > dropped every 4 years. (that is 27 days in 108 years)
  > --> Mistake is near to 0 (only 0.00000275 days too much
  > in 108 years)!!??

Since my conversion script can't handle leap years, another
month with less days is usually appended if necessary.

  On Wed, 25 May 2005, 15:28 CEST, I wrote:

  > It's ...      Ang taháynin le ...
  >  Windday        Bahis Pinena (Pin)
  >  Airday         Bahis Venena (Ven)
  >  Funday         Bahis Palayena (Pal)
  >  Starday        Bahis Siruena (Sir)
  >  Musicday       Bahis Tingraena (Tin)
  >  Lifeday        Bahis Tenena (Ten)

So accordingly, today is Windday, 17.108.68.10.6.8.32, which
means the we have the 17th century, the 8th day of the 10th
month of Cimban's 108th year and 32nd day in 6th month of
Vicama's 68th year. You can omit the days and months for
Vicama, though, making the date 17.108.10.8. It's the 5th
century of the 2nd millenium at the moment.

 > What set of monomorphemic color terms does your conlang
 > and/or conculture include?

  macárya - black     tuvo - red
  maca - white        piha - yellow
  camaya - gray       leno - blue
                      dano - green

  aruno - brown       avirang - golden
  canto - turquoise   idian - silver
  velato - orange     sarvo - copper

Beige would be "light orange" or something. I haven't
thought very much about the colours yet. Or should I kick
out turqoise and put in beige instead?

I've once had a PDF, though, where they said that there are
certain tendencies which colours a language has independend
terms for when it has specific basic colours. I just can't
find it ATM, because it's on some CD. It's also curious that
some languages lump green and blue into one group.

 > I should also ask about kinterms, since I've posted about
 > them recently.

  father - badan
  mother - mahava

  brother - metu
  sister - cina

  father's brother (uncle) - banedan
  father's sister  (aunt)  - bacindan
  mother's brother (uncle) - banehava
  mother's sister  (aunt)  - macinhava

I haven't cared yet for the great-parents as it seems.

Cheers,
Carsten

--
"Miranayam cepauarà naranoaris."
(Calvin nay Hobbes)

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