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Re: OT: [TECH] MySQL 4.1.11 and Unicode I/O

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Carsten Becker <[log in to unmask]>

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Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:40:39 +0100

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Hello Mark,

Thank you for verifying my question. I've had a look at how
it comes out for you -- you can delete my dictionary stuff
again now. Well, I usually haven't got problems with
Unicode, except here, when using MySQL. You're right, it
*really* cannot be the browser, as the pages are set to
UTF-8 with a <meta> tag and Firefox (1.4 I think) follows
that, setting the encoding of the pages to UTF-8
automatically. As for the server and PHP version I use,
that's

 > Apache/2.0.53 (Win32) mod_ssl/2.0.53 OpenSSL/0.9.7c
 > PHP/5.0.4 Server at localhost Port 80, MySQL
 > 4.1.11-nt

as I said.

I think it's due to the meta-tag that Firefox shows
"content-type => text/html;charset=UTF-8" in the 'Page's
Properties' dialogue. The only problem with looking whether
my PHP is malconfigured is that there are *two* php.ini
files -- one in $apachefriends$\xampp\php, the other one in
$apachefriends$\xampp\apache\bin, so I don't know where to
look. However, both files say

 > ; As of 4.0b4, PHP always outputs a character encoding by
 > ; default in the Content-type: header.  To disable
 > ; sending of the charset, simply set it to be empty.
 > ;
 > ; PHP's built-in default is text/html
 > default_mimetype = "text/html"
 > ;default_charset = "iso-8859-1"

Right, PHP doesn't send a default charset. Setting both files
to default_charset = "utf-8" doesn't help either as it seems.

The httpd.conf says about charsets,

 > # Specify a default charset for all pages sent out. This
 > # is always a good idea and opens the door for future
 > # internationalisation of your web site, should you ever
 > # want it. Specifying it as a default does little harm;
 > # as the standard dictates that a page is in iso-8859-1
 > # (latin1) unless specified otherwise i.e. you are merely
 > # stating the obvious. There are also some security
 > # reasons in browsers, related to javascript and URL
 > parsing
 > # which encourage you to always set a default char set.
 > #
 > # AddDefaultCharset ISO-8859-15 ##### CARSTEN: DEACTIVATED

I commented out this line on purpose for some reason I can't
remember anymore. I think it was because all the pages were
interpreted as iso-8859-15 then regardless of the charset
given by the <meta> tag in the HTML file. That was at least
*before* rebooting after having changed the two ini files.

Well, maybe it *is* an error in MySQL that Unicode doesn't
work properly here -- after all, I always get

 > Illegal mix of collations (utf8_unicode_ci,IMPLICIT) and
 > (latin1_swedish_ci,COERCIBLE) for operation 'like'

when entering %a-macron% into the "word" textfield in the
query dialogue. Putting a "COLLATE utf8_unicode_ci" after
the "LIKE" stuff doesn't help either -- the MySQL debugger
reports this use was just plain wrong.

I don't know if this matters, but there's no utf8.xml
file in the folder where the charset definitions are
(\mysql\share\encodings IIRC).

Greetings,
Carsten

--
"Miranayam cepauarą naranoaris."
(Calvin nay Hobbes)

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