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CONLANG  November 2005, Week 5

CONLANG November 2005, Week 5

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Re: Haiku Translation - Piercing Chill

From:

Jim Henry <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:31:50 -0500

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On 11/25/05, Larry Sulky <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> On 11/25/05, Roger Mills <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Charlie wrote:
> > > I meant to write, "I doubt that RHYME will work."

> > The same in Kash, generally, though by varying word order you might
> > occasionally get a true rhyme. Otherwise, as in e.g. Spanish it would
> > involve repeating grammatical material like endings and suffixes--
> > boooooring.  IIRC Spaniards feel that's too jingly, and Kash agree.

> Huh! I had thought that by putting Elomi's grammar class marker at the
> head of the word instead of the tail, I was sadly reducing the rhyming
> that could be done. But if what you say about Spanish rhyme is
> correct, then Elomi may actually be in better position for interesting
> rhymes, rather than worse. The Elomi Poet Laureates would be in better
> position to say, however.

Some of the earliest Esperanto poetry had this kind
of problem -- rhyming on affixes and grammatical
endings -- but poets pretty early on decided this
was a bad idea; most rhyming Esperanto
poetry rhymes on at least two final syllables,
the first of which can't be an affix, or elides
the -o noun ending and rhymes on the final
syllable of the truncated words, or (occasionally)
rhymes on the penultimate syllable of each
line _but not on the final syllable_.

I haven't done much with poetry in gzb yet;
I figure it will mostly involve alliteration
rather than rhyme when I get to it.  I composed
a short alliterative poem in the shower one
morning in gzb, but forgot it before I could
write it down -- maybe it will come back later.

--
Jim Henry
http://www.pobox.com/~jimhenry/gzb/gzb.htm
...Mind the gmail Reply-to: field

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