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CONLANG  February 2006, Week 2

CONLANG February 2006, Week 2

Subject:

Re: Problem (?) in Gwr sound changes

From:

Alex Fink <[log in to unmask]>

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Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:52:27 -0500

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On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:51:15 -0500, Alex Fink <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 02:10:30 -0500, Roger Mills <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>>I've hit a snag--
>>as some may remember, original CVCV(C) reduce, one way or t'other, to
>>monosyllables. Most of it has been worked out, both for CCVC and CVCC ( =
>>stressed V, V = unstressed; "y" is [j])
>>
>>We already know that final *-Vw/Vy reduce to single (new) vowels, but
>>vd.stop lenition is a later rule, so *-Vb/Vd simply > *-Vw/Vy (final *=g
>>also lenits, but that's another matter).
>
>[...]
>>Now the question: what about *-V(wy)(wy < *wy)) vs. **-V(wy)(wy < *bd)?
>>I'm beginning to think that the former might behave one way, the latter
>>another (actually the differences are slight, but do exist)-- one motivation
>>is that I want to create triphthongs glide-V-glide from the orig. *bd forms,
>>whereas orig. *wy mostly creates rising diphthongs, glide+V. Also I think
>>the stress might make the difference here.
>>
>>Example: *i(bw)w > **iww > y (unstr. i > y, -ww > wO > O)
>>
>>but *i(bw)b via **iwb > **yob > yow (i > y, -w- > o, b>w)
>>
>>Does this seem at all reasonable, or am I complicating life needlessly :) ?
>
>So *-VC(wy < *wy) and **-VC(wy < *bd), where C is a consonant that doesn't
>lenite into a glide, would yield falling diphthongs and V+wy respectively,

Aargh, I mean _single vowels_ and V+wy, respectively.  

>If so, then these outcomes for **-V(wy)(wy) look entirely plausible.  I'd
>be a bit surprised if the behaviours of **-V(wy)(wy) and of **-VC(wy) were
>not parallel.

Alex

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