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CONLANG  February 2006, Week 3

CONLANG February 2006, Week 3

Subject:

Re: monovalence

From:

Peter Bleackley <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:25:07 +0000

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staving Paul Bennet:
>Br'ga verbs each have exactly one argument. Some verbs are more case-like 
>(to be an agent, to be an undergoer, and so forth), but it makes the 
>language definition much more rational to refer to them all as verbs, 
>because they can be altered by the same derivational operations as the 
>rest of the class, and that way every non-particle word (and I'm trying to 
>avoid particles) is made up of exactly one noun (including pronouns and 
>noun classes) root and one verb (or case-oid verb) root.
>
>I'm having a real tough time delineating semantic space, though. To make 
>it work, different verbs attach by default to a noun in a specific 
>semantic role. "Learn" attaches to the subject being learned, and might 
>better be described as "to be studied", for instance, and "traverse" and 
>"ascend" (i.a.) attach to their paths, and again might be better thought 
>of in the passive voice.
>
>Anyway, I'm having difficulty determining the core argument that makes up 
>the essence of any given verb. You can dig without a tool, for instance, 
>but you have to dig *something*, a hole, a grave or a fortification, or 
>whatever. It's tough to figure out in some cases though, what the right 
>argument is -- in typing this, I have realised I'm tending instinctively 
>towards "undergoer", but that's probably not a universal definition. It 
>might just be that that's the cultural mindset of the Br'ga people, but 
>I'd like to keep the language and people a little less one-track than that.
>
>Any suggestions, hints, or pointers?

I came up with a similar idea a while ago - see
http://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0407C&L=CONLANG&P=R16472&D=0&H=0&I=-3&O=T&T=1&X=224E3136222E73479D&Y=peter.bleackley%40rd.bbc.co.uk

et seq. for how I tackled it. I recently did a relay translation using a 
language called "iljena" based on these ideas, so from some time next month 
it should be possible to see an entire text in such a language - plus the 
effects of trying to translate it back into a human language.

Basically, every noun is the subject of its verb in iljena. I thought that 
this would cause problems with translating objects (for example, that the 
verb meaning "undergo" might end up doing the work of an accusative a fair 
amount of the time). The approach I took with iljena was to ask myself 
"What is each participant in the sentence doing?" Think of the whole 
sentence as one action, in which noun is one participant, playing a 
particular role given by its verb. One way I might phrase "the boy studies 
physics" in iljena might gloss as

boy.learn physics.inform.

Pete 

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