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AUXLANG  February 2006, Week 4

AUXLANG February 2006, Week 4

Subject:

Re: International Language Review vs The Auxlang list

From:

"Donald J. HARLOW" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 26 Feb 2006 09:37:56 -0800

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Thomas Alexander skribis je 2006.02.26 4.30 atm...
> Hello Folks,
> 
> Don Harlow mentioned a publication from "forty years
> ago" caled the "International Language Review" and
> compared it to an "older, paper, and slower version
> of Auxlang."  He said it had around 1000 subscribers
> Auxlang might have roughly 100.
> 
> First, I'm troubled that we can't check the current
> subscription numbers for Auxlang. We also need to keep
> in mind that Auxlang is more than just the list at
> Brown.  Many people participate through the mirror on
> Yahoo.  

I think that "participate" is not exactly the correct word here. 
"Observe" is a more likely one. The actual number of "participants" is 
quite small; on the order of 15-25, at a rough estimate. (If my wife 
weren't urging me to finish this up and go out to eat with her, I could 
count them.)

> I just noticed that although the main Yahoo
> page on Auxlang (groups.yahoo.com/group/auxlang) does
> not show any information on the list members, a search
> for groups related to a specific topic does show the
> number of people subscribed to the list.  From there
> I was able to determine that the Yahoo-mirror has 303
> members as of this morning.  I don't know how long
> ago Don was last able to check the information at
> Brown, but it seems safe to assume that the number of
> subscribers has grown in the last 10 years along with
> the rest of the internet.  

As far as the actual list is concerned, it had roughly 100 members when 
I first checked it out in 1998 or early 1999. The number dropped 
precipitously during the Great Purge of 2000, and then grew slowly 
until, the last time I was able to check (probably in 2003 or 2004) it 
was up around a hundred again. But there was no net growth in the list 
from, let's say, 1999 to 2003, and the number of posters has not 
increased (though some of the identities have changed), so I'm guessing 
that the list is still about as large as it was then.

> What I'm curious about, though, is what Don might have
> been trying to show by comparing these numbers.  Is it
> to say that 40 years ago was a better time to develop
> a new auxlang?  My first thought is that any paper
> publication has more editorial control than a mailing
> list, which almost by definition has no editorial
> control beyond the self-control of it's most obnoxious
> member.  

This is, of course, one of the advantages of a paper publication. ;-)

I suspect that this (and any other) list would be considerably improved 
if the writer of any message would save it on his disk overnight and 
reread it in the morning before sending it. But I'm not about to do this 
myself, and I doubt whether many others will, either.

> I see this the other way around.  Considering that
> so many "universal languages" were added to those
> created at the proverbial Babel, it's amazing that
> any of them were successful at all.  That is, the
> more language proposals we make, the more we hurt
> the auxiliary language idea in general.  

I agree in principle, but suspect that in the long run there's not a 
problem, since most of these language proposals will never be seen by 
anyone but their inventors and a few aficionados; they will not affect 
the general public at all. (Every few years, the press seems to choose 
an Artificial Language of the Year and run a few articles about it -- 
Klingon in 1994-1994, Europanto around 2000 -- but over time the only 
enduring impact on the public, small as that impact may be, comes from 
the occasional context-free mention of Esperanto, as on the "Today" show 
day before yesterday.)

-- 
-- Don HARLOW
    http://donh.best.vwh.net/
    http://donh.best.vwh.net/Esperanto/Literaturo/Tarzan/
    http://www.harlows.org/don/

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