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AUXLANG  February 2006, Week 4

AUXLANG February 2006, Week 4

Subject:

Re: The most important auxlang task

From:

Rex May <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 27 Feb 2006 21:10:37 -0500

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On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 14:33:50 -0500, Antony Alexander <[log in to unmask]> 
wrote:

>However, your assertion that “auxlangers are too irrational to agree on anything” is a gross
>exaggeration. In fact there is now seems to be a large measure of agreement among a posteriori
>auxlangers. A few years ago I proposed that there was there was now a general consensus re the
>following IAL attributes, at least:
>
>http://langx.org/faq.html#(e)
>
>(1) alphabetic script - logographic scripts take many times longer to learn

Certainly.

>
>(2) orthographic script - one-to-one correspondence between letters and sounds with no
>duplicated or silent letters

Yep.  Natlangs can do it, so no excuse for an auxlang that doesn't

>
>(3) regular grammar, with the simplest possible rules, and no exceptions

Yes.  The simplest possible, with, I'd add, optional complications for necessary usages.

>
>(4) no linguistic genders

I'm wondering if anybody has tried to make an auxlang WITH genders.

>
>(5) an international vocabulary - with the eventual goal of words from as many languages as
>possible

Yes and no.  I'm hunting up GOOD words for Tceqli from many sources, and I'm choosing them for 
fit and, I suppose, for there aesthetics.

>
>(6) no synonyms - only one word or name for each thing

Generally, yes.   Tho I can see making some words that may have the same meaning as longer 
compounds would, but be shorter and handier.  Very minor quibble.

>
>To this list I would now add what seems to be an emerging consensus among post-Esperanto
>auxlangers re phonology and grammar: i.e. a “Western” phonology from towards the "Western"
>side of the IPA chart consisting of about 19 - 22 consonants and 5 vowels, a vocabulary 
consisting

Good point.   "Western" phoneme sets seem to be pretty representative of the big human 
languages in general, whereas Chinese, Arabic, and Hindi are not.  I think.

>of words which have already been thoroughly tested in existing languages, and a “Chinese-type”
>analytic (isolating) grammar.

Sort of.   Certainly with Tceqli.  Tho more inflected stuff like Eo are still quite possible.

>
>There is also the vital point that the a posteriori approach is thoroughly proven, not only in the
>partial success of a few constructed IALs (and Esperanto in particular) but also in the historical
>success of a number of pidgins, some of which lasted long enough to become creolised.

Hm.  I like posteriori myself, but I wouldn't insist on it.   I agree that practically speaking, it's 
almost certainly the best way, tempered with ad hoc a priori stuff.

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