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AUXLANG  March 2006, Week 2

AUXLANG March 2006, Week 2

Subject:

Re: das Telefon

From:

Jean-François Colson <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:41:49 +0100

Content-Type:

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On Tuesday, March 14, 2006 5:46 AM CET, Jacques Dehée wrote:
> 
> [allemand: Telefon]  
>  
> [italien: telefono]  
> 
> [espagnol: teléfono]  
> 
> [polonais: telefon]  
> 
> [néerlandais + flamand: telefoon] 

+ afrikaans

> 
> [roumain: telefon]  
> 
> [hongrois: telefon]  
> 
> [portugais: telefone] 
>  
> [tchèque: telefon]  
> 
> [catalan: telèfon]  
> 
> [suédois: telefon]  
> 
> [danois: telefon]
>   
> [croate: telefon]  
> 
> [occitan: telefone]  

Logosdictionary.org donne "telefòn" pour l'occitan

> 
> [galicien: telefono]  

Logosdictionary.org donne "teléfono" pour le galicien

> 
> [gaélique irlandais: telefon] 

Logosdictionary.org donne "teileafón" pour le gaélique irlandais

>  
> [letton: telefons]  
> 
> [slovène: telefon]  
> 
> [russe: telefon]  

Non. En russe, c'est телефон.
Le même mot est utilisé en russe, en bulgare, en mongole, en serbe et en ukrainian.
En biélorusse, c'est тэлефон.

> 
> [estonien: telefon]
> 
> [maltais: telefon]  


[albanais: telefon]

[aragonais: telefono]

[asturien: teléfonu]

[azéri: telefon]

[basque: telefono]

[bolonais: telêfon]

[portugais brésilien: telefone]

[lombard brescianais: téléfono]

[breton: pellgomzer ; pellgomz ; telefon]

[calabrais: talefono]

[catanais: talèfunu]

[tchétchène: telefon]

[espéranto: telefono]

[féroïen: telefon]

[frison: telefoan ; tillefoan]

[frioulan: telefon]

[judéo-espagnol: telefono]

[kurmandji: telefon]

[ladin: telefonn]

[léonais: teléfonu]

[limbourgeois: tillefoon]

[lombard occidental: telefun]

[malgache: telefàonina]

[malais: telefon]

[lombard mantuanais: telefon]

[émilien modènais: telefon]

[napolitain: telèfono]

[norvégien: telefon]

[papiamentu: telefòn]

[émilien parmesan: telefono]

[piémontais: telefon ; telefo]

[émilien régiano: telèfon]

[romagnolo: talèfan]

[italien roman: telefono]

[romanche: telefon]

[sámi: telefovdna]

[samoan: telefoni]

[sardenais: telèfonu]

[slovaque: telefon]

[alsacien: Telefon]

[triestin: telefono]

[turc: telefon]

[turkmène: telefon]

[valencien: telefon]

[vénitien: telefono ; telefano]

[viestano: talef'n']

[wallon: telefone]

[gallois: ffôn]

[zeneize: teléfono]


> 
> Avec "ph" seuls l'anglais et le français sont obsolètes

[anglais: telephone ; phone]
[français: téléphone]

> 
> (et bien sûr, regrettablement, l'interlingua de Salt Lake City)

Auxquels on peut ajouter:

[dzoratâi: tèlèphone]
[latin: telephonum ; telephonium]

Il y a ausi le grec τηλέφωνο que l'on pourrait translittérer en têléphono.

Sans oublier les mots avec p:

[indonésien: telepon ; telpon ; tilpon]
[tagalog: telépono]

> 
> *
> 
> On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 23:15:34 -0500, Jacques Dehée 
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> >Depuis des dizaines d'années, en Allemagne et en Autriche,
> >
> >"Telephon" s'est modernisé en "Telefon"
> >
> >("f" à la place de "ph").
> >
> >La langue allemande est la langue de l'Union Européenne
> >
> >qui compte le plus de locuteurs en Union Européenne.

L'interlingua doit-elle se limiter à l'Union européenne? À l'Union européenne d'aujourd'hui?
Faudrait-il modifier la langue à l'adhésion de nouveaux pays?
L'interlingua doit-elle être européenne ou mondiale? Faut-il prendre en compte le nombre de locuteurs des principales langues d'aujourd'hui à l'échelle du continent ou à celle de la planète toute entière?

> >
> >Mais depuis Salt Lake City, aux Etats-Unis,
> >
> >Interlingua dit "Classique" veut imposer "telephono"
> >
> >(avec l'obsolete "ph") à l'Union Européenne.
> >
> >Je recommande aux Mormons: Mind your own business !

Qu'est-ce que les Mormons ont à voir là-dedans? Voudraient-ils écrire l'interlingua avec l'alphabet déséret? ;-)

Donc, si je comprends bien, il faudrait passer de "telefono" à "𐐻𐐯𐑊𐐯𐑁𐐱𐑌𐐱", de "ortografia" à "𐐱𐑉𐐻𐐱𐑀𐑉𐐰𐑁𐐮𐐰" et de "ritmo" à "𐑉𐐮𐐻𐑋𐐱"? [Pour l'affichage de cette dernière phrase, utiliser une fonte qui inclue l'alphabet déséret, par ex. Code2001, ainsi qu'un programme capable de gérer correctement les seizets d'indirection.]

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