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AUXLANG  June 2006, Week 4

AUXLANG June 2006, Week 4

Subject:

n-marking in Ido (was: Tweaking Eo)

From:

Thomas Alexander <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 27 Jun 2006 06:33:05 -0700

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Dave,

I didn't see your next note before I sent my last
one...

You're making a few assumptions.

First one: that I'm pretending.

> a fluent English and Esperanto speaker pretending
> to not understand how it works is kind of like
> that post a while back on the pronunciation of
> tuj. Neither is hard.

I am not pretending.  Sure, I understand the rules,
but when I tried to apply them, I was corrected.  From
a practical point of view, I just need to avoid trying
to translate verse into Ido and I'll never have the
problem again.  I have no trouble with prose.

Second assumption - that the corrected sentence
was SVO.

> There's nothing wrong with an -n in a SVO sentence,
> just like how there's technically nothing wrong with
> getting your boss' permission every time you need to
> go to the bathroom, or with holding your hand right
> out in front of you every time you cross at an
> intersection when you have a walk signal. That's
> why it got taken out of the sentences Thomas had
> written.

Absolutely not!

The sentence was VSO - or perhaos VS(pF)O(vF) - where
pF is a prepositional phrase modifying the subject and
vF is an infinitive verb phrase modifying the object.

On the order of:  Sxatas la viro en la gxardeno la
ideon kombi sin per rastilo.

To me it seemed "obvious" that in Ido, you would drop
the -n on "sin", but keep it on "ideon."  How would
you mark a sentence in this order?

> That's all I'm going to say on the topic though.
> Plus it's 4:30 am over here. I should sleep.

If you find out you were saying something on the
wrong topic will you say more?  :-)

Don Harlow:
> Note that in Dave's sentence as given, "Pano...n"
> is not in fact *the* direct object of the sentence;
> that is "manjar pano[n]".  Perhaps a better example
> would have been a simple Pano...n, me manjas.

Perhaps another sign that this kind of thing is not
always "obvious."

Amike salutas,
Thomas/Tomaso ALEXANDER.
www.NightinGael.Net
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