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AUXLANG  October 2006, Week 3

AUXLANG October 2006, Week 3

Subject:

Re: Beijing stamps out poor English

From:

Antony Alexander <[log in to unmask]>

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International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:26:22 -0400

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>> In the UK one sometimes sees T-shirts bearing
>> Japanese words, but they're hardly the acme of cool
>> (I'd guess most of the wearers are young martial
>> arts students or film fans).

Risto Kupsala replied,       Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:12:01 +0300

> Clothes, jewelry and even tattoos with Chinese characters have become
> quite common in Finland in the recent years. There is somekind of East
> Asia boom going on at the moment. China is on everyone's lips because of
> its growing economical importance. Also Japanese manga and anime have
> become much more popular recently for some reason. They have existed for a
> long time underground but now they have breaken to the mainstream. So it's
> not all about the martial arts and kungfu movies anymore.

> By the way, last Friday was the premier of the first joint Finnish-Chinese
> movie ever made called "Jadesoturi". It is quite exceptional because all
> previous joint productions have been done with other Western countries.
> The movie is a mixture of Finnish mythology and Chinese kung fu tradition.
> The story takes place in ancient China and present day Finland with
> reincarnated characters. In my opinion the film is an example of the
> growing influence of the Chinese culture.

I don’t disagree that these cultures have an influence, but here we're talking about international 
language. In the UK, which has sizeable minorities from the West Indies and India / Pakistan, the 
crossover influence has been massive - especially in music and fashion. However, most of it is 
semiotic rather than linguistic; the gang leader gets to do most of the talking.

In 1971, just turned 18, I worked in your country (Suomi - I love that name) for about six weeks. 
The timber-importer friend of my parents who got me the job warned me that Finland was a very 
conservative country - with the result that I cut my hair and left my fashionable clothes behind.

The trip got off to a bad start. A lorry driver gave me a lift to Newport in South Wales, took me in a 
rough pub - probably a brothel - and got me drunk on whisky. Someone punched me out cold 
and I ended up in hospital, but somehow made the ship in time. Although I was a passenger I 
chose to work with the crew. It was a German ship, and run with characteristic efficiency, but I was 
surprised how badly the young Austrian guy working with me in the galley was beaten up by the 
officers for some reason or other. The most amazing thing, though, was arriving in Riihimaki at 
last and finding the “Summer of Love” four years after the event, with the interesting kids my age 
speaking fluent English, into the same music, and wearing similar hair and clothes to those I had 
left behind (arrgh! - the teenage angst of it...and I wonder if there is still a “Hyde Park” in 
Riihimaki).

I’ve strayed into personal reminiscence here, but in order to emphasise a point that anyone on this 
forum between the ages of 40 and 60 at least can probably confirm from personal experience: 
that English-speaking popular culture was absolutely massive, and world-wide in its scope. And 
the further point I am leading up to is that this has laid a bedrock of English around the world 
which might now act as a substrate for the IAL, as I have previously explained. 

But I also wish to emphasise that this condition of fertility is temporary, since the reputation and 
influence of this English-speaking culture seems to have declined in recent years. There is an 
opportunity here - for an IAL based on a globally-recognisable substrate and set of speech 
sounds (perhaps along the lines I have suggested in LangX) - but it must be seized or it will pass; 
even as the opportunity to implement Esperanto globally has evidently passed by.

So what - one might say - let’s start again with totally politically correct IAL with words and 
grammar from every language and equally easy or difficult for everyone....sounds great - couldn’t 
be fairer in theory - but as for the practical implications.....arrgh!

Antony Alexander               http://langx.org

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