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AUXLANG  January 2007, Week 1

AUXLANG January 2007, Week 1

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Re: O.T. - Brigitte Gabriel's speech about Muslims

From:

Rex May <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 6 Jan 2007 17:07:24 -0500

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On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 19:44:09 +0200, Risto Kupsala <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>Rex May wrote:
>> On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 10:39:32 -0500, Andrew Nowicki <[log in to unmask]> 
wrote:
>>
>>> This time you made a few good points.
>>> If the immigrants cannot assimilate and
>>> are prone to crime, they do not benefit
>>> their host country.
>>>
>>
>> Yes yes yes.  And the problem is that when
>> such people immigrate, the results are
>> largely ignored and downplayed by the
>> government and the press, both of which
>> are fanatically in favor of open borders.
>>
>
>And you are fanatically against it. Two fanatics on the opposite sides,
>that means trouble.

Ah, then the thing to do is compromise, and let _half_ the
illegal aliens move in.   Then I won't be a fanatic?

>
>> Luckily, in the US it's still legal to express
>> your opinion.  In Europe, not so:
>> http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewForeignBureaus.asp?Page=%5C%5CForeignBureaus%5C%
5Carchive%
>> 5C%5C200305%5C%5CFOR20030519f.html
>>
>
>Quoting from the article: "Racism is not an opinion in France. It is a
>crime." The article is from 2003 so probably the case is closed by now
>and the court of law has made its ruling.

Sure is.  She was convicted.  She's been convicted a few times
now of saying things the government doesn't approve of.
But since racism (a strange thing to call an anti-Muslim
stance, if you think about it) is a crime, not an opinion, then
it's all okay, right?

War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength
Opinion is Crime

Yeah, it fits right in.  Only Orwell called it
'crimethink.'

>
>> This is an interesting point.  It's possible for
>> a good American to be more loyal to Xianity
>> than to the US, and still be perfectly loyal to
>> the US, because there's no real potential for
>> the two loyalties to clash.
>
>And why is that? Could it be because USA was founded on the European
>cultural values that are more or less Christian? (I say more or less
>Christian, because the Christian values are in a constant flux and under
>debate between different Christian factions. And the Good Book is full
>of contradictions and loop holes too.)

Congratulations on your grasp of the obvious.

>
>>   Conrariwise, it
>> would be hard for an Arabian citizen to be
>> loyal both to Arabia and to Christianity.
>
>I don't know about that. The Sharia and the Bible are pretty much
>compatible.

Risto, you are a piece of work.  You see, Christianity
is considered heretical by Muslims, and... Oh, well 
you already have everything figured out.

>
>>   This
>> is why Arabia isn't encouraging Christian
>> immigrants.  Why is it that they can see
>> that and we can't?
>>
>
>Because some of us have enough sense to close our eyes and ears from
>right wing hawks like you.

This is priceless.  Too smart to listen to facts.
Where do you get the 'hawk' part?  Do you
know what it means?

>
>> Mass immigration transforms a nation.
>> Ironically, it tends to transform it into a
>> copy of the country that was so unbearable
>> that the immigrants wanted to leave it in
>> the first place.
>>
>
>Or maybe the country was in the decline already but now you have a
>scapegoat to blame.

Let's see... scapegoat, right wing hawk... yep, you've
got all the logical terminology down pat.  

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