I work with printed material, with lots of ornaments, but see no need
for such an element.
Dan O'Donnell wrote:
> Speaking for myself--which means somebody whose work is mostly in
> medieval manuscripts though with forays into print--I'd say figure
> covers the ground still. But perhaps others have better informed
> On Sun, 2007-11-03 at 18:44 +0000, Lou's Laptop wrote:
>> Back in the mists of time, in P1, and even also in P2, to be exact, the
>> TEI boasted an element called <ornament>. I quote:
>> Description: marks the position of a printers device, ornament or fig-
>> ure for example on a title page or elsewhere in a printed text.
>> desc: provides a brief description of the appearance of the orna-
>> Data type: CDATA
>> Value: A brief descriptive phrase
>> Default value: #IMPLIED
>> This attribute is optional.
>> <ornament desc='a donkey burdened with books'>
>> <s>DEFEROR IN VICVM</s>
>> <s>VENDENTEM THVS ET ODORES</s>
>> Remarks: Any text included in the ornament may be encoded as distinct
>> segments as content of the <ornament> element. The appearance of
>> the ornament itself (for example as a bit-mapped image) should be
>> encoded in the same way as other embedded images; see section 42,
>> "Formal Grammar for the TEI-Interchange-Format Subset of SGML,"
>> [in separate fascicle]
>> Part: base tag set for common core features.
>> Member of classes: tpParts
>> In P3 this element was removed, largely on the grounds that <figure>
>> would do the job just as well, though maybe the vagueness and inaccuracy
>> of the tagdoc quoted above didn't encourage anyone to keep it.
>> However, bibliographers are a tenacious bunch, and the revival of this
>> element has now been proposed in some quarters (you know who you
>> are).... so what do the People think?
>> Are printers ornament sufficiently interesting -- and crucially,
>> sufficiently different -- that they deserve an element of their own? Or
>> should P5 continue to insist that you represent them in your encoding by
>> means of a <graphic> or <figure> element?