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AUXLANG  March 2007, Week 3

AUXLANG March 2007, Week 3

Subject:

Re: The Centennial Letters

From:

"Donald J. HARLOW" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:04:39 -0700

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Je 10.53 atm 2007.03.14, Jay BOWKS skribis
>2007/3/14, auliuniv <[log in to unmask]>:
>>Wow, Don, is that all you've got?
>>The big bonfire?

It's all I need, I think. But it's not the bonfire, it's the non-bonfire.

>>Wow, the only ones affected by that are those who didn't give a care in the
>>first place. Not one of you on this list at the time even bothered 
>>to ask about it.

Bob, if you can actually write that with a straight face, you must 
either be suffering from Alzheimer's or some other form of dementia, 
or your memory must be EXTREMELY selective. But then of course you 
may not have written it with a straight face; you might simply have 
made the assumption (perhaps justified) that nobody here will bother 
to go back to the on-line Auxlang archives and spend an hour or so 
reading the firestorm (you should excuse the expression) that blew up 
in this list around your "bonfire".

If you will search your memory, you might be able to dredge up the 
several expressions of horror expressed at the idea of your 
vandalizing the IAL world by burning what might be the only complete 
collection of "Cosmoglotta" in existence, along with a bunch of other 
stuff that you had collected. Buried in there somewhere was my 
message wondering whether any of this was true -- I found it 
difficult to believe, and, as the sequel showed, with good reason. 
Your two-days-later confession that you had lied to the list, and 
that there had been no bonfire, raised yet another firestorm. As I 
remember, you managed to alienate your (few) supporters in this list 
-- Leo from Boston springs immediately to mind. I don't remember that 
you ever succeeded in explaining your lie -- though the words 
"testing the list" keep surfacing in my memory (but then I, too, like 
most of the rest of us, have a selective memory; and in any case, 
it's not clear to me what you could have been testing the list FOR. 
Gullibility, perhaps?).

Is "not one of you on this list at the time even bothered to ask 
about it" simply bad memory or another lie?

>What I recall Bob,
>was a great outcry of disbelief
>that you would ever do such
>a damnatory thing against the
>memory of a great auxlanger
>and his work. Only to find out
>you had lied and then there was
>much outcry about that also.
>Also some questions were posed
>and you never bothered to answer.
>Which kinda reminds me that the
>more things change indeed they
>remain the same.
Amen. Though I don't read all Bob's postings (I didn't used to read 
any of them, but perhaps chemotherapy has affected my mind in the 
interim), I get the impression that he is still hanging on to his 
obsession with demonstrating that Interlingua was a rip-off by Gode 
of Occidental. (*) A superficial look at the structures of the two 
languages would put paid to this idea; and even if you concentrate on 
the lexicons alone, the similarities (which can be extended to, for 
instance, Idiom Neutral and the core vocabularies of Esperanto and 
Ido, from which Wahl obviously ripped off Occidental) can easily be 
accounted for by the fact that both men used the same source material 
from which to derive their vocabularies.

(There's a huge block of postings from during and after my last chemo 
session that I haven't bothered to read, but I get the idea that Bob 
is advertising some letter from Gode which "proves" that he ripped 
off Interlingua from Occidental. Am I right, or did I misread? And if 
Bob has referred to such a letter, has he ever posted it, or does it 
remain something shadowy which "will prove" something at sometime in 
the unforseeable future? Bob has a tendency to fantasy, as you may 
have noticed. Similarly, while it would not surprise me that I had 
never had occasion to read, see or even hear of a document refuting 
William Gilbert's criticisms of Occidental, since Bob is the source 
of information about such a document I tend to suspect that its 
actual existence is questionable.)

---

(*) I think the chances of this being true are on the order of .01%, 
but even if it should prove out -- who in the year 2007 cares???



-- Don HARLOW
http://www.webcom.com/~donh/don/don.html
Opinions (in English): http://www.harlows.org/don/opinions/
Esperanto (in English): http://www.harlows.org/don/esperanto/
Literaturo (Esperante): http://donh.best.vwh.net/Esperanto/Literaturo

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