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AUXLANG April 2007, Week 1

Subject:

Re: Fwd: Re: Neo Patwa blog

From:

"Donald J. HARLOW" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 1 Apr 2007 22:50:29 -0700

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Je 07.11 ptm 2007.04.01, Jens WILKINSON skribis

> > --- "Donald J. HARLOW" <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > (1) I'm not sure why you introduce the somewhat
> > > redundant -pela to
> > > show the cardinal numerals, since the terms by
> > > themselves seem
> > > totally appropriate; is this something you
> > borrowed
> > > from Tok Pisin or
> > > some similar tongue? I'd tend to omit it (for
> > > simplicity) and simply
> > > show "wan baci, do baci, san baci ..."
> >
> > I understand that, and that's been suggested to me
> > by
> > somebody else as well. It is true that it comes from
> > Tok Pisin, or more generally, Asian contact
> > languages.
> > In Chinese Pidgin English, apparently they said "one
> > piecee man". The justification I have for it (maybe
> > not significant) is that it's easy under this system
> > to make the distinction between "one month"
> > (wan-pela
> > luna" and "January" (wan-luna). A compound word
> > using
> > numbers can be different from the noun with a
> > counter
> > in front of it. But if it appears redundant and
> > speakers do it they way you suggested, I'll be happy
> > with that as well.
> > >

Strikes me that the count vs. month question could be easily solved 
by using an ordinal rather than a cardinal number for the latter; so 
"one month" = "wan luna" while "January" = "numewan-luna". (Of 
course, when speaking of a global language, _is_ "numewan-luna" 
actually equal to "January"? Strikes me that we just had a major 
holiday, celebrated throughout much of southern and central Asia, a 
week or so ago -- something called "Nauruz" or maybe "New Year". But 
this is more strictly a social than a linguistic question, though it 
obviously has linguistic ramifications.)


-- Don HARLOW
http://www.webcom.com/~donh/don/don.html
Opinions (in English): http://www.harlows.org/don/opinions/
Esperanto (in English): http://www.harlows.org/don/esperanto/
Literaturo (Esperante): http://donh.best.vwh.net/Esperanto/Literaturo

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