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AUXLANG  October 2007, Week 4

AUXLANG October 2007, Week 4

Subject:

Re: Criteria for an IAL and why we divide

From:

Kjell Rehnström <[log in to unmask]>

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International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 25 Oct 2007 08:24:01 +0200

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auliuniv skrev:
> May I ask why you didn't try speaking a little Occidental with a couple people to see if it could 
> have worked at all in the meetng. I don't expect that you would have been prepared to speak 
> everything in Occ, but you could have gotten an idea of their reaction.
>
> That's what I did with the Moroccan fellow I mentioned before. It worked, I was pleased, he 
> was surprised and got the information he wanted. Sometimes all it takes is slowing down in 
> speaking so the other person can clearly hear what you are saying.

I did not think about it. Occidental words that I think would work are 
"pardon", "mersí", "boy", "yes" and "no" and "ne". My situation was that 
I knew I would be able to use English. I might have supported with 
Russian, as I knew that people would understand it.


>  One problem I find in 
> language teaching from my high school experience is that they never worked on training the 
> ear. That, to me, is where the difficult part is. It is easy to learn the details of a language, and 
> have a big enough vocabulary, but the problem then becomes hearing.
>   

Some 20 years ago I tought Swedish to a group of US exchange highschool 
students, and my impression was that they had been exposed to a rather 
conventional method of teaching languages. We were giving a week crash 
course and then they were to continue their learning Swedish in 
different parts of the country. One of them said after the second day 
that he was surprized that he could understand signs and some newspaper 
headlines.

With the method of teaching we used you have got to practise the 
language at once, if you don't you will forget all that you have learnt.

We did not do much with mistakes. The "correctitude" will come with time.

But if I were to teach Occidental to a group I would use a similar method.

Another method that I have seen demonstrated is suggestopaedia. The idea 
is that you play a certain kind of music and then every member of the 
group gets another name, something out of the history of Occidental in 
this case. Then you make the ordinary introducing round: "What's your 
name" etc. and then you read a text to the group which you have in 
parallel version, in their own language and in the target language. Then 
you go through this text and after that you have a very prescribed (if 
that's the word) conversation. You do everything to create a situation 
that has nothing to do with a classroom situation. You can make it as if 
you were sitting at the counter of a bar.

Unfortunately the demonstration of that idea was in teaching Russian, 
and as I have some knowledge of it, I cannot judge how it would work on 
me. With my colleges I discussed the method. My own impression is that 
the parallel text was the main positive thing with the course, but other 
people stressed the non-classroom environment.

I would use occidental in a situatin where I didn't know what language 
that I know I could use.

Kjell R

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