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AUXLANG November 2007, Week 1

Subject:

Re: Worldlangs

From:

Jens Wilkinson <[log in to unmask]>

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International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 4 Nov 2007 20:05:30 -0800

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--- Antony Alexander <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:


> > Why would an acrolect have more phonemes? That's
> the
> > question I have, which relates to the one about
> > grammar as well.
> 
> It depends which language one is talking about,
> doesn't it? Surely an acrolect has more 
> phonemes and a bigger range of grammar by
> definition. Thatís looking at it objectively: as I 
> explained before, it doesnít necessarily mean that
> someone using a basilect is speaking or 
> writing worse than someone aspiring to use the
> acrolect. 

> For example, compare standard British English -
> which has 20 vowels - with Standard 
> American which has 19, though most Americans use
> less than that. 

To be honest, I can't say that I have studied this
issue very deeply, but my own assumption would be a
fairly structuralist one. For example, Hawaiian has
fewer phonemes than most languages, but makes up for
it by having long words. So my working hypothesis
would be that a basilect does not necessarily have
fewer phonemes than an acrolect. 

But it's more complicated, because for example, being
an American of my generation, I do not, for example,
ever use "whom". It's just not part of my "mesolect"
if you can call it that. I would say "who did you
call?" But if I were making a speech for a
professional audience, I would use "whom did you
call"? And similarly, there are people in the US who
will say "free" instead of "three" in a family
setting, but will revert to the  "proper" "three" when
speaking in a social setting that calls for that. 

But that seems to me like a slightly different
problem. In a sense, an acrolect requires more
precision because in a household, people generally
know what you're saying anyway, so there is no need
for it. But on the other hand, with a pidgin-type
language were are communicating among people who may
have different phonetic habits, so the problem is a
different one, i.e. simplifying it to the point that
people can understand one another. 

In general, I think we are in agreement about the
whole process. But I don't see any good reason to
discuss the issues of acrolects and basilects here.
Using piding-creole seems quite adequate. 

Jens Wilkinson
Neo Patwa language: http://patwa.pbwiki.com

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