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AUXLANG  November 2007, Week 1

AUXLANG November 2007, Week 1

Subject:

Re: Why cross-linguistic world auxiliary language?

From:

Olivier Simon <[log in to unmask]>

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International Auxiliary Languages <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:47:48 -0400

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Sell vesper Risto!

Thanks for this funny and interesting map, for now I know why I don't fear to 
put Sambahsa-mundialect side-by-side with Occidental!
As sambahsa's grammar and vocabulary is based on Indo-European, so it 
represents something like about 39% of the world's population (and, if we 
count people who have an everyday use of an IE language, it surely 
represents half the world's population). Sambahsa also includes some words 
from arabic, and an IE simple grammar is not fundamentaly different from 
Arabic grammar. The only big flaw of sambahsa as a world language according 
to the criteria discussed is that it includes nearly no word from the "Sinitic 
group" (I mean Chinese, Japanese, Korean...). I have tried to find lists of 
isoglosses between those languages but none was satisfactory in my view. 
Officially, there are many loanwords from Chinese into the neighboring 
languages, but they become then so phonetically altered between each other 
so that they are of new value for the building of a world language. This may 
explain why (Dave wrote this, if I remember well) Chinese people learning an 
auxlang do not seem to care about the presence of Chinese words within its 
vocabulary (but if someone has exploitable sinitic wordlists, he can send them 
to me). 
I had tried to learn Glosa thanks to James' website. Its vocabulary is from the 
Greek and Latin roots of scientifical vocabulary, but its grammar is "pidgin-
like". This made me experiencing that pidgin-like auxlangs are very attractive 
when the matter is to explain simple things (ex: "Cat eat mouse" or "Cat did 
eat mouse" can be understood without any problem), but when the sentence 
grows longer or includes compounds (with no inflections of any kind), the 
comprehension is getting harder and harder, so that at the end you 
completely lose the advantage of "no grammar". As, in my view, an auxlang 
must be able to express complicated sentences as well as the natlangs used 
nowadays for international communication, I prefered to stay on a simple 
grammar based on the largest group of speakers. 
For information, the sambahsa word for "sailor" (in the meaning of 
french "matelot") is "matrose", a German word found at least in Russian, in the 
native language of our friend Risto (matruusi) and a word that the Estonian 
Von Wahl, who was a sailor in the Russian Fleet of the Baltic, should have 
known (madrus!). That's why, though sambahsa as an IE language is fully able 
to create compounds, I often rely on lexical borrowings. 

Sambahsa est druv-ye uno "mundial-dialect"!
Olivier
http://sambahsa-mundialect-org.blogspot.com

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