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AUXLANG March 2008, Week 4

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Re: A free Auxlang blog?

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> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of steve rice

> --- [log in to unmask] wrote:
> 
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> > steve rice
> > 
> > > > They're both still in the very early stages. 
> > There
> > > > are things about
> > > > Ingli that I just haven't been able to decide
> > like
> > > > the final /l/ and
> > > > some lexical issues because I am using some
> > WENSA
> > > > vocabulary where
> > > > it is also commonly known to anglophones.  For
> > > > example "un" or maybe
> > > > "uni" (one) instead of "wan".
> > > > 
> > > I provisionally accept "wan." The tricky part was
> > > "three" and "tree," but I'm going with "twe" and
> > > "twi," respectively. The idea is to use a
> > > Spanish-based root when I run into trouble.
> > 
> > "Du" and "tri" work just fine.  They still occur as
> > recognizble prefixes in English.  
> 
> So what do you do with "tree"?

That's the major problem with reducing the phonology.  A lot of new
homophones come into play.  In some cases, I may just find another
root like "arbor", or base the new word on the spelling rather than
pronunciations so one or the other could become "tre".  I'm still
trying to come up with a good systematic way to resolve these
conflicts.


> > The hardest part is trying to reconcile
> > pronunciation.  I want the
> > language to be similar enough to English, but also
> > want to leverage
> > some of the Latin or Greek terminology that's well
> > known within it.
> > Those terms are frequently pronounced different in
> > the English vowel
> > system than what is known in the continental
> > languages which are all
> > fairly similar, so I have to figure out which
> > pronunciation to use
> > for Ingli.  Your "able" example is a good one. 
> > Should it be "ebel"
> > or "abel" (assuming I don't turn the dark /l/ into a
> > vowel).  "abel"
> > [ab@l] or even "able" [able] are closer to the
> > Romance cognates, and
> > still leave enough recognition for anglophones.
> > 
> That's what I was doing originally, but English-based
> creoloes tend to use the English vowels. Bislama
> appears to use "ebol." It's the old dilemma of
> auxlangers: follow the spelling or follow the sound?
> For a single-source system, maybe following the sound
> is best. I'm still looking.

I have a tendency to follow the spelling on Latino-Romance
vocabulary because the vowels often fall into place anyway when you
consider the continental languages. Where I lean toward the
pronunciations more, are the words of Anglo-Saxon or other Germanic
origin which are more likely to be recognized by their sound.

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