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AUXLANG March 2008, Week 4

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Re: A free Auxlang blog?

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> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Risto Kupsala
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 6:26 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [BULK] Re: A free Auxlang blog?
> 
> Steve Rice wrote:
> > Now, as previously noted, I'm not opposed to
> > worldlangs a priori. But apart from the amazing
> > "holier-than-thou" claim ("I'm putting together a
> > politically correct language! For an encore, I'll walk
> > on water!"), from a practical standpoint, I just don't
> > see it.
> 
> The vision takes time to materialize. Constructing languages  with
Western
> base is easy, because there is a wealth of material at the  local
library
> and there are many many models to follow from the past century or
so.
> Creating a worldlang is a larger task, because source  material is
hard to
> get and you need at least 10 more of it compared to narrow
Romance base
> (other language groups to be considered include: Germanic,
Slavic, Turkic,
> Arabic, West African, Bantu, Horn of Africa, Indo-Iranian,
Dravidian,
> Indochina, Nusantara, China, CKJV). Huge amount of required work
combined
> with a language designer who has constant scarcity of time  and
who is as
> indecisive as me explains why it takes so long for Pandunia> to
get ready.
> In case you care to know.

Yes, there is considerable homework to be done.  Not so much on the
lexical level where there is already a lot posted online, but going
over material that describes the languages structurally, so a
grammar can be created that is as accomodating as possible to the
largest numbers.  


> > But I guess part of the problem is that we approach
> > the issue from radically different perspectives. I
> > believe that auxlangs will eventually be used by those
> > who find them useful--initially a very small
> > percentage of the world population, but someday a
> > larger part.
> 
> I'm not against that idea, I just think that people who will  find
conIALs
> useful are spread evenly in all the metropolises of the world:
Lagos,
> Kinshasa, Addis Ababa, Kairo, Tehran, Kolkata, Jakarta,  Hanoi,
Shanghai,
> Ciudad de Mexico, etc. A worldlang type of conIAL fits in that
picture
> well.

This is very true because it's in the major cities where you find
the diverse populations, especially national capitals or major
commercial centers.  

I can see many different angles of attack to get a new language
going but there's still the catch-22 of needing users to attract
users.

> ....

> I have tried to outline in numerous messages why I *believe* that
a
> worldlang type conIAL will spread globally better than the
traditional
> IALs. You have found my argumentation not only weak but also
irritating,
> so for the sake of peace and calm I will save my breath and keep
silent
> about that subject for a while.

I happen to agree that a worldlang would be more effective, and
possibly even more attractive.  As to any hopes of any conauxlang
becoming what it aspires to be, I think the whole thing is virtually
futile.

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