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CONLANG  April 2008, Week 4

CONLANG April 2008, Week 4

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Re: Mr. Mrs. Ms. Sir or Madame

From:

John Campbell <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Constructed Languages List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:22:31 -0300

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In Canada, I guess calling someone an eskimo would be kind of offensive,
but doing it would make you look like an idiot probably. I'm Canadian.
-John

On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Abrigon Gusiq <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Familiar vs non-familiar, as well as words used inside a group
> but not outside the group.
>
> Much like the old "Nigger" and "Niggah" debate.
>
> Myself, been called "Nigga" but being "white", do not find it
> appropriate to use it, also older, so with memories of my
> childhood. but was taught how to say it right, but it was cause
> of being from Alaska, and the guys, since we was all in trouble,
> and I was from Alaska and not from the lower 48, it was okay for
> me to use it, but ...
>
> I did take it as a compliment, since I have been known to do a
> mean old school hip hop. But its the music, and I needed
> exercise..
>
> What is age, but also group, ethnicity, religious, and gender
> appropriate, can say alot.. Much like a buddy of mine, who is
> racially black, but is from Puerto Rico and sees himself as
> Hispanic, gets lost at times in the "Black" experiance and being
> labeled as such.
>
> Also for example, I believe in Puerto Rican Spanish, you say
> "Mejo" (spelling) but its often an elder talking to a kid, but
> in Mexican Spanish, its often a brother or like (blood need not
> be in common). Dialects can be fun, also they tell people where
> you are from.
>
> Here in Alaska, we have over 8 native languages, but many more
> dialects. And not saying something right can be a problem..
>
> Inuit/Inupiaq
> Yupik
> Chupik
> Siberian Yupik
> Aleutiq
> Aleut
> Are all cousins to each other. But the last two are Aleut, not
> Eskimo. But in Canada, if you call someone an Eskimo its not a
> nice word, but in Alaska its sort of a word of pride?
>
> Then you have Athabaskan be they Gwichin, Athabaskan or from
> Tetlin/Tok area, they are all different.
>
> Then you have Tlinghit - supposedly related to Athabaskan but
> not sure. There may have been some ancient contact with
> Polynesia or Aztec or something.
>
> Haida in SE Alaska
>
> Tsimshian - small group, likely gone now as a language.
>
> But then you have the other languages here, not unknown to hear
> from time to time.
>
> English
> Spanish
> Russian (or related language)
>
> Are all spoken by a local population group. To include some
> Natives (Russian especially).
>
> Then you have
> Phillipino (Tagalog and related)
> Korean
> Samoan and related languages
>
> Also with local speakers. But also non-local as well.
>
> Will see about Thai, Japanese, and others..
>
> Also known people form Kazakhstan, and I suspect Afghani and
> also some from Pakistan.
>
> Mike
> Alaska Crossroads of the World - heh, cheaper/easier to fly from
> Asia to Europe via Alaska than to go to the lower 48, see the
> globe and see why..
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark J. Reed" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 5:49 AM
> Subject: Re: Mr. Mrs. Ms. Sir or Madame
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 9:09 AM, <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > When I was in the army, we always had to use just
> > "ma'am". I never heard "madame", and I think it would
> > have been commented on at the very least.
>
> Definitely. The word "ma'am" in modern English seems to be a
> separate lexeme from "madam(e)", despite the derivation. Around
> here,
> saying "yes, ma'am" is just plain polite, while saying "yes,
> madame"
> is putting on airs. Unless you happen to be a maitre'd,
> sommelier,
> concierge, or some other French job title and are addressing a
> customer. :)
>
>
> --
> Mark J. Reed <[log in to unmask]>
>

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